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Is this a Definition of Sadh Sangat?

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  1. Ishna

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    I was reading Chapter 11 of MacAuliffe's Life of Guru Nanak and came upon the following paragraph. Would you say this is a description of the kind of people a Sikh should look for within the sangat?

    You often see Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji talk about the 'company of the holy' and 'the true congregation' and I've often wondered what exactly that was. I think I've found my definition. Hope it helps others with the same query.

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    Yes, I did have that thread in mind when contemplating my recent discovery but I had participated in the thread and knew it was closed. Perhaps I should re-read, although I recall it went around in circles for a while in the middle and I don't think I got very far with it. I will have a look-see, thanks.
     
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    I personally like he quote from Macauliffe and would see that as the down to earth way in which I understand the message of Guru Nanak to be given. That is only my view and the question of sangat has been debated to mean other things. My personal impression again, that the idea of sangat described by Macauliffe has eluded many a seeker of sangat, and they become disillusioned.

    The thread can be re-opened if new material surfaces. It was closed because it wasn't going anywhere.
     
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    I leave the threading to your more than capable weaving techniques admin ji!

    I have been one of those disillusioned-type people but find that a mix of all perspectives helps me around it: cyber sangat here where the discussion is intense and enlightening, physical sangat where the learning is not as intense but the experience itself is enlightening, and the personal communion with Waheguru which is also enlightening.

    I'm fond of easy-to-understand things such as the MacAuliffe quote, it helps to verify the intuitive knowledge, for me anyway.
     
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    HA! See, my post #4, I ask for a definition of Sadh Sangat right there! hahaha! lol
     
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    Yes.. and thanks. Sent you a private message about the topic. :)
     
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    Dear Ishna Ji,

    Defination of Sadh Sangat as described by MacAuliffe's raises some serious ?s I will not even try to interpret it.
    1st we live in Kalyug and there is no perfect person / Sadh Sangat ( that is my own understanding - please forgive me for being blunt ) The defination by MacAuliffe gives the impression of perfect Sadh Sangat (which is not true).
    2nd - the reason Sadh Sangat is stressed so much is when we live in a imperfect world, we have to stay clear of the bad vices around ourself and stay close to the good one's. That is like a test we all have to go through.
    Some of us make an effort to know the truth and some don't even want to know it. They try to ignore the facts / teachings of Guru Granth Sahib.

    And this applies to both Cyber Sangat that you are in currently and when you are physically present amongst Sadh Sangat.

    We all are at different spiritual levels. Once you accept that fact if you meet someone who is not at the same level as you. It will not bother you. You will also meet Sangat where there will be plenty to learn from.

    Only a VIRLA ( rare ) is a person who is on this path and when you meet one you will know it. He or She will not try to influence you with his understanding of Guru Granth Sahib. He or She will encourage you to follow Guru Granth Sahib ( all the answers are in Guru Granth Sahib ).

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    hpannu ji

    This is the exact reason why people become disillusioned.

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    And imho, this is what Guru Nanak was trying to emphasize

    Sensible! Thanks
     
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    Let's be realistic and accept we have to have others around us but very few people in the world will meet all the criteria mentioned by Macauliffe. Even the Guru's were never alone in the world and not all the people they were around were always 'perfect'. It's very hard to feel alone.
     
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