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Guru Nanak Dev ji being asked: Where was mind when there was no body; no form or shape wisdom relat

Discussion in 'Sidh Gosht' started by Ambarsaria, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. Ambarsaria

    Ambarsaria Canada
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    In these questions the Sidhs post what is the origin of mind or soul without a functioning body. How would the breaths of life sustain without functioning centres enabling these? Does wisdom attach to formlessness? Without conception or life is all this of no consideration?

    Let us review the following,

    Sidhas/Yogis ask:
    Guru Ji’s answers:
    Guru ji state that sundry preoccupation without focus on the source is superfluous. Only when such limitations are removed that the truth becomes visible. Guru ji state that in the absence of a body visualization, all resides in the one creator. Such a creator in existence all over without classifications or boundaries. It is the recognition and association of a true creator that enables wisdom.

    What you think?

    Sat Sri Akal.

    PS: Please see the appropriate complete Shabad here,

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  3. Gyani Jarnail Singh

    Gyani Jarnail Singh Malaysia
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    This is why Gurmatt and Gurbani via the SGGS strongly condemns DEH WORSHIP..dehdhareeism and living gurus...and also pictures, statuues of past gurus etc. ALL these HINDER our connection with the SOURCE - HIM. The Human body is simply a vehicle an instrument to get to the SOURCE - therefore other joons as punishment for bad karma etc is also a figment of the imagination suggested in order to mind control large sections of humanity by the privileged few - Gurbani is absolutley clear that ONLY the HUMAN BODY has the capacity to house the soul that can achieve HIM....the other animals etc are INCAPABLE of what the Human Body can do. Kabir Ji gives the apt example of the buffalo...
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  4. Kanwaljit Singh

    Kanwaljit Singh India
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    The creation is going from one form to the other. We see small changes and big changes, quick changes and long time changes. Yet we don't see what has been Unchanged since ages.
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  5. Luckysingh

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    When there was no form of universe and no life, then the Lord was ALL within his unmanifest self (akulin)
    Then the 3 realms didn't exist since the light of the formless filled these completely and there were no distinguishable realms!

    The colour, form and dress were all contained in the true lord that is present in the form of the shabad (varan bẖekẖ asrūp so eko eko sabaḏ vidāṇī )

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  6. Tejwant Singh

    Tejwant Singh United States
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    Lucky Singh ji,

    Guru Fateh.

    I beg to differ with you.

    Sikhi is the way of living which is not afraid to say,"We do not know, perhaps, one day we may find a speck of it or have an inkling if we stay on the Sikhi Marg".

    The word Sikh- a learner shows us that, unlike in the dogmatic religions which are based on their self created subjective truths.

    Let's keep on learning as Sikhs.


    Tejwant Singh
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