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Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana - A debate

Discussion in 'Hard Talk' started by vijaydeep Singh, Apr 1, 2006.

  1. vijaydeep Singh

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    Das got this post at tapoban.org


    As Das is aware that this could be mere salnder about Kala Afghana Sahib and its authanticity has to be verfied and das request that someone in Canada must verify if it is true or not.

    Das is saying that let it be false(whole report above) or say let the judgement be wrong that Kala Afghana Sahib are innocent.

    But in both cases das is saying that he must know that what Guru wrote about Triya Charitar is actualy happening to him and yet he does not agree to Guru when Guru is leting him expirance the same thing in his(Afghana Sahib's) personal life the same.


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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    i wonder what plamba has to say
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    Plamba ji

    Is on visit to india , I would love to hear from him
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    Taboban is a Sant Mat site. I am not a fan of Afghana, but I would not belive the nonsense at Tapoban for one second.
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    <<<<Taboban is a Sant Mat site. I am not a fan of Afghana, but I would not belive the nonsense at Tapoban for one second.>>>

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    This is 100 percent correct.It is court order.What is there not believe in this.?
    Not only that he was tried and jailed in India while a sub inspector of police for stealing car engines.It was in Punjab Monitor Magazine.He was taken to Canada by making him to jump bail and planted to mislead sikhs.
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    If its 100% correct lets see evidence, and not hearsay from a 3rd Party site. I want to see links to the actual news article.
     
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    Randip singh
    It is a court judgement. There was nothing to disbelieve it.Here is the link

    Yahoo! Groups
     
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    <<<If its 100% correct lets see evidence, and not hearsay from a 3rd Party site. I want to see links to the actual news article.>>>

    See this

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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    Again a third Party site which I cannot acces.

    Please link news articles from a reputable source.
     
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    Re: Allegation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    Maybe he had just finished reading some tria chariters and tried to put one in practice or the tria pulled a chariter on him and fooled him. Either way, tria chariters didn't help Kala Afgana. Once again Tria Chariters have proven to be damaging to the Khalsa Panth.
     
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    Re: Allegation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    There is no composition tria sharitra in Dasam Granth.It is academic dishonesty to name Charitropakhayan as tria charitra.Pakhyan means stories that have been already written.
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    Have you a link to the actual case?

    In the UK we have records of cases.
     
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    Randip singh

    I do not understadn what you are trying to say.Why will a court order will be put on the internet?
    It has been put by a panth dardi singh.The name of Advocate of the lady is given along email.Please email him to know the truth.
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    Ok.

    The reason why I am suspicious is that I have read and seen far too much slandering, forged, dishonest material on the internet, I have even seen a documentary on a person on yOutube which is doctored........... so therefore before ANYONE posts articles so diflamitary as this it is my duty as a moderator to ensure that it is from an honest dource.

    I have no intention of e-mailing advcates, the oness ahould be on people who posted this to find out the truth.

    PS On a side note isn't Kala Afgana just a nickname for this fellow. His real name is something else yet in the case they use his nickname?
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.


    in the original post his nickname is used to describe him, but his proper name is used in the court info.


    Khalsa v. Bhullar

    Between
    Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa, Plaintiff, and
    Taranjit Kaur Bhullar, Hariner Singh Bhullar, Gurnham Singh
    Bajwa and Kahar Singh Pannu, Defendants

    [1992] B.C.J. No. 378 Victoria Registry No. 89/1983 British Columbia Supreme Court Victoria, British Columbia
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    His name is Gurbakhash singh.This happened in Victoria BC.This is a court judgement and hence chances of manipulation is not possible.
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    did he serve any time ? or pay a fine ?
    Evidence of those as well should be posted.

    BTW since he is "excommunicated" can anyone remove his "Singh" or his Sikhi from him ?? I have seen some pro dgs call him sinh..as if the excommunication transformed him into a hindu !! what a joke ??
    and his books are even more popular than ever...his website has a lot of strikes inspite of all this. But no one has effectivley ANSWERED his questions with Gurbani from SGGS - not the jathedars and not the detractors.
    The best answer to his ...... is the Correct Gurbani based answers. Mere allegations remain unconvincing..and court judgements ?? well the Air India Kaneshka judgement is IN...but do the victims and their famailies accept it as correct and final ??...simply because the judges and lawyers are not GOD. Cases and evidence can be fixed and has been fixed before..so all this is just hot air...or not ??

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    Giani ji

    I think you have not read the verdict.He was fined
    5,000 CAD.

    Hs blasphemous writings are a separate issue.Are you sure if he wrote those books himself.He is 8th standard of old times and does not know punjabi well.He is a Urdu guy.All his life he was a policeman.Was implicated and jailed in a bribery and theft case.Jumped jail and whicked away to Canada.

    Wrote ten books in a period of four years.This is a huge project needing 20 to 25 persons.It is not job of one person.

    I have gone through some of his books .It has no value to a sikh.All it does is to make him a communist minded.it condemns all sikh traditions,history,gursikhs of old times and name calls our scriptures.
     
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    Re: Allagation of sexual abuse by S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji.

    Fined only 5000 CAD for sexual abuse?
     
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    <<<<Fined only 5000 CAD for sexual abuse?>>>

    It is not important how much he was fined or jailed.Important is his conviction.That puts him in category of sex offenders.
     

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