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Do we all believe in the same Guru Nanak?

Discussion in 'Sikh Sikhi Sikhism' started by Admin Singh, May 1, 2009.

  1. Admin Singh

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    Found this interesting topic on internet... worth contemplating...

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    Aman ji

    Thanks for this article.

    This Nanak is with us every day

    Unobstructed is the path of one who believes in the Name (Sat)
    He departs this earth with honor and renown.
    He never walks in the worldly ways
    Nor does he travel by ritualistic religious roads.
    The believer in God's Name is sincere to his dharma.
    Of such Greatness is the Naam (Sat;) only if one were to believe with
    all one's and soul, one would realize it.
    Guru Nanak page 3
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  4. vsgrewal48895

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    Dear Aman Ji,

    Your perspective on Guru Nanak is very right IMHO. Guru Nanak first questions and then answers with examples in Raag Gauri, AGGS, Page, 152 about some of the questions raised by you;

    ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧
    Gauree, First Mehl:

    Q. ਜਾਤੋ ਜਾਇ ਕਹਾ ਤੇ ਆਵੈ ਕਹ ਉਪਜੈ ਕਹ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਕਿਉ ਬਾਧਿਓ ਕਿਉ ਮੁਕਤੀ ਪਾਵੈ ਕਿਉ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ
    o jā▫e kahā e āvai. Kah upjai kah jā▫e samāvai. Ki▫o bāḏẖi▫o ki▫o mukī pāvai. Ki▫o abināsī sahj samāvai. ||1||

    How can we know where we came from?

    Where did we originate, and where will we go and merge?

    How are we bound, and how do we obtain liberation?

    How do we merge with intuitive ease into the Eternal, Imperishable Akal Purkh? ||1||

    A. ਨਾਮੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਰਹਰ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਰਹਰ ਨਿਹਕਾਮੁ ਰਹਾਉ ਸਹਜੇ ਆਵੈ ਸਹਜੇ ਜਾਇ ਮਨ ਤੇ ਉਪਜੈ ਮਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਮਾਇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮੁਕਤੋ ਬੰਧੁ ਨ ਪਾਇ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੀਚਾਰਿ ਛੁਟੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਇ
    Nām riai amri muk nām. Narhar nām narhar nihkām. ||1|| rahā▫o. Sėhje āvai sėhje jā▫e. Man e upjai man māhi samā▫e. Gurmuk muko banḏẖ na pā▫e. Saba bīcār cẖẖutai har nā▫e. ||2||

    With the Naam of Akal Purkh in the heart and on our lips, we rise above desire, like It. ||1||Pause|| with intuitive ease we come, and with intuitive ease we depart. From the mind we originate, and into the mind we are absorbed. As Guru willed, we are liberated, and are not bound. Contemplating the Word of the Sabd, we are emancipated through Its Name. ||2||

    ਤਰਵਰ ਪੰਖੀ ਬਹੁ ਨਿਸਿ ਬਾਸੁ ਸੁਖ ਦੁਖੀਆ ਮਨਿ ਮੋਹ ਵਿਣਾਸੁ ਸਾਝ ਬਿਹਾਗ ਤਕਹਿ ਆਗਾਸੁ ਦਹ ਦਿਸਿ ਧਾਵਹਿ ਕਰਮਿ ਲਿਖਿਆਸੁ
    Ŧarvar pankī baho nis bās. Suk ukī▫ā man moh viās. Sāj bihāg akėh āgās.ah is ḏẖāvėh karam liki▫ās. ||3||

    At night, lots of birds settle on the tree. Some are happy, and some are sad. Caught in the bondage of the mind, they perish. And when the life-night comes to its end, then they look to the sky. They fly away in all ten directions, according to their pre-ordained destiny. ||3||

    ਨਾਮ ਸੰਜੋਗੀ ਗੋਇਲਿ ਥਾਟੁ ਕਾਮ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਫੂਟੈ ਬਿਖੁ ਮਾਟੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਵਖਰ ਸੂਨੋ ਘਰੁ ਹਾਟੁ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੋਲੇ ਬਜਰ ਕਪਾਟ

    Nām sanjogī go▫il thāt. Kām kroḏẖ fūtai bik māt. Bin vakar sūno gar hāt. Gur mil kole bajar kapāt. ||4||

    Those who are committed to the Naam, see the world as merely a temporary pasture. Sexual desire and anger are broken, like a jar of poison. Without the merchandise of the Name, the house of the body and the store of the mind are empty. Meeting the Guru, the hard and heavy doors are opened. ||4||

    ਸਾਧੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਪੂਰਬ ਸੰਜੋਗ ਸਚਿ ਰਹਸੇ ਪੂਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਲੋਗ ਮਨੁ ਤਨੁ ਦੇ ਲੈ ਸਹਜਿ ਸੁਭਾਇ ਨਾਨਕ ਤਿਨ ਕੈ ਲਾਗਉ ਪਾਇ
    ḏẖ milai pūrab sanjog. Sac rahse pūre har log. Man an e lai sahj subā▫e. Nānak in kai lāga▫o pā▫e. ||5||6||

    One meets the Holy Saint only through perfect destiny. The God's perfect people rejoice in the Truth. Surrendering their minds and bodies, they find the Akal Purkh with intuitive ease. Nanak falls at their feet. ||5||6||


    Virinder S. Grewal
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