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Difference between Gurbani & Gurubani?

Discussion in 'Gurmat Vichaar' started by singh is king, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. singh is king

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    I wonder if somebody would like to enlighten me about the difference between "Gurbani" and "Gurubani"

    Thanx in advance
     
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    Re: Gurubani & Gurubani

    I think it is just like

    Dadi Ma says Wahguru
    Nani ma says Waheguru



    for those who dont know punjabi- dadi ma is- dad's mother, nani ma is mom's mother
     
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    Re: Gurubani & Gurubani

    well sardara123 my thought is same as of you. But I shocked to hear different from so called sikh scholar that is why I made this thread. I wonder nobody is willing to answer my question. I posted this question in great hope. I dont know why spn ....
     
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    Re: Gurubani & Gurubani

    i've never heard of any difference... is there a difference between Gurdwara and Gurudwara?

    is there a difference in the spelling when written in gurmukhi, or is it a matter of transliteration?
     
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    Re: Gurubani & Gurubani

    Some grammar... Gur is the oblique form of Guru, and the oblique is also used as possessive, so Gurbani means Guru's bani.
    So the correct way to write it is Gurbani, not Gurubani.

    Hope this made some sense.
     
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    Re: Gurubani & Gurubani

    It's the same difference as i wrote above. And it's also the way it's spelt in gurmukhi.
     
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    Re: What is the difference between Gurbani & Gurubani?

    singh is king ji

    It is Gurbani -- and Sara has given the linguistic explanation for this. Why not post an example of where you saw this with the surrounding context so we can take a look and see what might be going on? I sounds to me as if someone did not understand the idea of the oblique form as Sara explained.

    I had a second thought. The person may be trying to say Guru's Bania -- but unsure of the 's rule. This is very hard when learning English.
     
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    Re: What is the difference between Gurbani & Gurubani?



    :rofl!!:

    why am i not surprised. :)

    seriously, why worry about what some tankhaiya says... listen to Guru, not apostates. :)
     
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    Aytay ras sareer ke kay ghat naam nivaas

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    its not kala afghana....at all.
    Its those who are trying to EQUATE whatever is OUTSIDE the SGGS with whatever is INSIDE SGGS.
    SGGS is OUR one and ONLY GURU....whatever the SGGS contains is GURBANI. WHY ? Simply because SGGS is GURU (Jyot of all ten nanaks and many others whose Bani is contained therein)
    However..we have FOUR NANAKS (human Form) Guru Hargobind Ji, Guur Har rai Ji, Guur Harkishn Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji whose "writings/utterances/etc are NOT contained in SGGS. Inspite of this FACT...the SGGS is still COMPLETE GURU and was GURTA gadhi by Guru Gobind Singh Ji in 1708 at nanded. NO OTHER have this right to gurgadhi/Guruship/Equality.

    Banis from OUTSIDE SGGS are used at Khandeh batte dee PAHUL (initiation_ ceremony of KHalsa SINGHS. This PAHUL is ALWAYS given in the TABIAH of the GURU -SGGS ( Without the GURU Present no such Pahul can take place even if the Panj are ready.

    Based on this PAHUL ceremony soem people are trying to EQUATE and raise those "banis" to Level of SGGS - they invented the word "GURU-bani" (coming from the mouth of Guru - that is Guru Gobind Singh Ji to differentiate from the GURBANI in SGGS which is our DEFACTO GURU Jugo jugg Attal. The Banis used at Pahul are holy, and part of the Nitnem of a Singh and in the SRM....BUT they are NOT at PAR with GURBANI of SGGS.
    Secondly these same people then raise another RED HERRING...they coem up with the imaginative and seemingly innocent questions like..IF bani of Guur Gobind Singh ji is NOT "Gurbani as per SGGS"..then how come BHATT bani written by soem bhatts who are NOT GURU are called GURBANI and contianed in SGGS ?? Same goes for Bhagat banis, Farid Banis etc etc.
    The Answer to such red herring troublemakers/blasphemers is..Every Single word in SGGS has been put there by GURU ARJUN JI and then by GURU GOBIND SINGH JI. The Mundawni Mh 5 is the SEAL of Guru Ji and 1708 Gurgadhi is by GURU JI.
    Whatever GURU JI left outside SGGS is INTENTIONALLY DONE...whatever writings not accorded GURBANI status no matter who wrote them is also INTENTIONALLY done by GURU JI. Those banis are for the PAHUL Ceremony and for NITNEM. Lets leave them that way.
    ONLY the SGGS is Rock SOLID and proven with Guru Jis Mundawni Seal and Gurta in 1708....not a single word can be changed or altered even BY the KHALSA PANTH..unlike the SRM/NITNEM etc....which can be changed and has been done before.

    Gyani Jarnail Singh
     
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    I do not know why this is such a difficult concept. You explained it straight up and based on historical realities. There is an entire thread on BHATT Bani going on right now where your thinking might be clarifying.
     
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    Don't attack the fundamentals of the Sikh faith. Be careful of what you are doing.

     
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    Yes, SGGS Ji our living Guru but you cant deny Guruship of other ten Gurus. If banis of four Gurus are not contained in SGGS it does not affect their guruship.

    But am still waiting for the answer, difference between Gurbani and Gurubani. In the video KA clearly stated that there is a differnce. I personally believe there is not any difference. Is there any differnce between Gur asees or Guru asees? NO. Gur chela, Guru Chela. like "Waho Waho Guru Gobind Singh aape Gurchela". If some pronounce Gurchela as Guruchela does it make difference? I think similarly there is only pronunciation difference between Gurbani and Gurubani. In Punjabi culture there are several pronunciations available for one particular word. Like a Punjabi name Gurditt means Guruditta, Gursharan : Guru Sharan.

    I think

    Gurbani: Guru's bani

    Gurubani: Guru's bani

    So, where is the difference?

    I may be wrong, please enlighten me.

    Also, what is the meaning of Gurbani? It will be really great if you explain this according to Punjabi grammatical composition i.e. word formation in Punjabi gramattical way?
     
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    Re: What is the difference between Gurbani & Gurubani?

    If someone start to misleading people Seriously it is a matter to worry.
     

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