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did sikh gurus before guru gobind singh ji wear the 5 k's etc?

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  1. Rash

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    Guru gobind singh ji was the one who introduced the 5 k's and the other rules of the khalsa.... but the how in all the photographs of guru nanak deb ji and the other gurus they are shown with kesh a beard and all.... at that time there were no such rules....[​IMG]... this has really confused me .... by this means we can go forward and stop following the 5 k's and say that we are sikhs who are the followers of guru nanak deb ji and not guru gobind singh ji...[​IMG]??
     
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    The Guru Jyot that arrived from The Creator is in AAD GURU - Guru Nanak Ji Sahib. For the continuation of HIS HUKM- Guru nanak ji chose a "worthy successor" - Bhai Lehna Ji into a "part of me" GURU ANGAD JI SAHIB. Notice the Name Change..Bhai Lehna ji did not becoem Guru Lehna Ji. This Name Change, name chosen by Guru nanak Ji is to signify that while I in my Human Body am following the Natural laws set by the Creator on normal human body life time on this Earth..my "divine Mission" is not yet complete and therefore I am Passing it on to you. Guru Nanak ji also disregarded man made succession rules and all such laws/accepted csutosm etc and chose His successor after a lengthy period of testing and observance.
    Guru nanak ji travelled all over the known world..preparing the "ground". ON His Birth Bhai Gurdass Ji wrotes..Mitee DHUND Jagg channan Hoya...from the moment of His Birth the AAD GURU had the Jyot of Waheguru and his divine mission.
    Guru Angad Ji then carried the Nanak Mission Forward..establsihed an EDUCATION Tradition under Vidya vicharee taan parupkaree. Guru Ji also established the Fit Body Fit Mind Tradition by opening Akharras for sports and kushtees kabadis etc. Guru Ji also carried the Guru ka Langgar tradition founded by Guru nanak ji further. And Most Importnat indicator of all..in keeping with the Nanak JYOT passed on by Guru nanak Ji..Guru Angad Ji wrote GURBANI under the same Name of NANAK. This shows the unbroken links of the string running thorugh the Mala..the Pearls are added but the Central String is the same.
    Guru Amardass Ji - no more Name change as this is not necessary...but Guru Ji also writes under Nanak, carries on the Educational, physical education and guru ka langgar traditions further. Guru Ji follwos up on the Far Away travels of Guru nanak ji by Establishing 22 Manjis _ Centres of Propogation/Administration. In line with the expanding Network of Sikhs, these 33 Manjis are vital links between the Guru at Goindwaal and these far away sangats. Most IMPORTANT FEATURE of these manjis..Completley in line with what Guru nanak Ji ahs said..Som kio mandah akheayeah jit jammeh Rajaan..the Stataus of WOMAN is HIGH..Guru Ji choses to appoint WOMEN to these important Manji posts. This is Putting the jit jammeh Rajaan principle into PRACTISE.
    Guru Ramdass Ji is bestowed the Gurgadee after having spent long period in Guru Amardass jis company is given the responsibility of settign up a Central CITY - essentially a Headquarters of Sikhi. Guru ji founds Amrtisar and begins the plannign to build Harmandar sahib in a pool of Water, with Four doors, LOW down. This si Directly OPPOSITE to the prevailing Hindu mandir architecture..Mandirs WENT HIGH UP into the Sky, were built with hundreds of steps going UP, had only one doorway..In line with the Principles of Equality of all - 4 doors, show humility..building is at ground level/even lower...water also always FINDS its own Level, always flows towards the LOWER region...is another symbolism.
    Guru Arjun Ji notices that the warning that Guru Amardass ji gave on the spread of UNDERGROUND fake Bnai under the Nanak name to Confuse and undermine the fledgling Sikh Religion, has increased. The sons of Gurur nanak, guru angad ji, and guru amrdass ji are at loggerheads with the House fo nanak..in the Gurus household his elder brother Prithiyah wants the rights to gurgadee becasue he is eldest (which was IGNORED by Guru nanak ji and the successor Gurus as Gurgadee is not personal property but a divine mission ) Sensing the Great and imminent dnager of the FAKE BANIS..Guru Arjun ji undertakes the huge task of compiling all the Gurbani so far in His posession into a Granth in one volume that will BLOCK adulteration/changes etc. The Guru begins this work and also contuneis the development of Harmandar and Amritsar. It cna be said with conviction ..IF NOT for Guru jis foresight in thsi regard, not much authentic Gurbani would have survived the enemy within a nd enemy without onslaught on Sikhi especially after the martyrdom of Guru Arjun Ji and the young age of Guru Hargobind Ji. In line with his fathers instructions Guru hargobind ji began the martial tradition of MIRI together with PIRI..the SANT-SIPAHI Tradition that later on culminated in the KHALSA on Vasakhi day 1699 in Formal way. Guru Hargobind Ji fought FOUR BATTLES with the highly professional and trained mughal Forces and won all four. Guru har rai ji kept an armed guard of 2000 cavalry. Guru harkishan Ji was Child Guru fro a short time and passed on Gurgadee to his Baba Grandfather/son of Guru hargobind Ji..Teg bahdur Ji sahib. Guru Ji undertook the task of TOUCHING BASE with ALL those areas that Guru nanak ji had visited in India 300 years before. Guru Ji went as far east as Assam Bengal..as far as ORissa..Bihar etc. Thus its no coincidence that Guru Nanak Jis SIKHI was strong in ORISSA..hence the Origin of one of the PANJ PIYARAS from ORISSA REGION!! In those days of jungles and poor land communication and difficulties fo TRAVEL...this PIYARA received the CALL from ANANDPUR and was PRESENT in 1699..and in all probablity he had the KESH and Kangha and the 5 kakars and knew /recited the Banis as his Nitnem. It probably took him many years to travel..so he was fully prepared. THIS PREPARATION was actually set in motion by the visits of GURU TEG BAHADUR JI.The Nanak name for GURBANI still contineus uninterrupted...Guru teg bahdur ji alsi used the Nanak chhap only.
    And thus we finally come to Guru Gobind Singh Ji...Guru Ji is the Last of the Human Gurus..its his task to WRAP UP everything...tie up all loose ends..and bring to fruition Guru nank Jis Divine Mission. And GURU JI did all that and more..with exceptional success. He fought wars..he rewrote the AAD GRANTH and incorporated his father Guru teg bahadur Jis GURBANI in ita nd bestowed the Nanak gurgadee to the AAD GURU..Guru Grnth. he said..MY BODY is in the KHALSA..my AATMA..My soul..my JYOT is in the GURU GRANTH. This BODY is not only that of "Guru Gobind Singh ji..alone..its the COLLECTIVE BODY of the House of Nanak Ji..and thus its totally FALSE to try and separate the ten Gurus from each other. The MIRI-PIRI tradition had already begun to be USED PRACTICALLY 100 years before in Guru hargobind Jis time..even THOUGH it actually BEGAN with GURU NANAK JI Facing up to Babar bravely, Guru Angad Ji facing up to the sword of Humayun, Guru Arjun Ji Facing a horrible death as in HIS HUKM and Bhanna without defeat/sadness/despair but in CHARDEEKALLA. This Chardeekalla thta Under Banda Singh bahadur made theKhalsa sit on the throne of Punjab in such a short time..making the promsie of Guru Gobind Singh ji come true..in Greeb sikhan ko deon badhsahi !!
    The MANSION that is the KHALSA thus began in April 1469.....with the Birth of nanak Ji...and came to completion on APRIL 1699...as Envisaged by Guru Nanak Ji.
    Thus no one cna "pick and chose"..either be the KHALSA of NANAK..or be Sikh of NONE. Choice is voluntary..if one is WEAK..do not look for EXCUSES..just admit it...no harm done..BUT dotn try and SUBVERT and MISREPRESENT or foist your own weakness on the GURUS.
    jarnail Singh Gyani
     
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    Sorry I left out a small bit. Notice that the Name Change in Guru Angad Ji...the next Name Change is at the END..completion of the Nanak Mission..Gobind RAI..to GOBIND SINGH.
    This is not a coincidence..see the beautiful arrangement of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..Begins with a SLOK....AAD SACH JUGAAD SACH..and CONCLUDES with a SLOK......."Slok Mahlla panjavaan TERA KITAA JATOH NAHIN...
    Everything in Gurmatt is so well palnned and symetrical...as in a beautiful Maala...the Universe...
     
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    thank you gyani ji.... but in any case i wasnt subverting my weakness on the gurus... but if a sardar not willing to be a part of the khalsa goes and gets his hair cut he will still be a sikh ..but he will not be a part of the khalsa but will still be a follower of the gurus...
     

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