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Creating Access Application for PC w/o Access software

Discussion in 'Information Technology' started by Karl H, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. Karl H

    Karl H
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    Hi,
    I was hoping to make an application with Access that can be used by folks
    who may not have Access. An mde file cannot be opened without MS Access
    (maybe I'm wrong about that).

    Is there a different method I should use?
    Thank you,
    Karl
     
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  3. Dean

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    No. You need to provide the Access Runtime files to these users.

    "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B5E01506-B20B-4A66-AFA4-ECF9EA5F44CE@microsoft.com...
    > Hi,
    > I was hoping to make an application with Access that can be used by folks
    > who may not have Access. An mde file cannot be opened without MS Access
    > (maybe I'm wrong about that).
    >
    > Is there a different method I should use?
    > Thank you,
    > Karl
     
  4. Karl H

    Karl H
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    Hi Dean,
    Thank you for the response. It looks like there's quite a bit for me to
    review about run time files.
    In a nutshell, is it possible, without tons of work, to modify my
    application so others can use it if they don't have Access? If so, I'll roll
    up my sleeves and see what needs to be done.
    Thank you,
    Karl

    "Dean" wrote:

    > No. You need to provide the Access Runtime files to these users.
    >
    > "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:B5E01506-B20B-4A66-AFA4-ECF9EA5F44CE@microsoft.com...
    > > Hi,
    > > I was hoping to make an application with Access that can be used by folks
    > > who may not have Access. An mde file cannot be opened without MS Access
    > > (maybe I'm wrong about that).
    > >
    > > Is there a different method I should use?
    > > Thank you,
    > > Karl

    >
    >
    >
     
  5. Douglas J Steele

    Douglas J Steele
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    There's no way for users without Access to use an Access application.

    Your options include:

    1) Rewriting your application in another technology that can be compiled to
    an executable, such as VB, VC++, VB.Net, etc. Note that you can still use
    the MDB file to store the data
    2) Convert your application to a web app
    3) Distribute your Access application together with the royalty-free runtime
    version of Access. Note that this does not change your application in any
    way, shape or form.

    --
    Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
    http://I.Am/DougSteele
    (no e-mails, please!)


    "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:CFE7389A-A7AE-4BDA-94EA-090E04FA52F5@microsoft.com...
    > Hi Dean,
    > Thank you for the response. It looks like there's quite a bit for me to
    > review about run time files.
    > In a nutshell, is it possible, without tons of work, to modify my
    > application so others can use it if they don't have Access? If so, I'll

    roll
    > up my sleeves and see what needs to be done.
    > Thank you,
    > Karl
    >
    > "Dean" wrote:
    >
    > > No. You need to provide the Access Runtime files to these users.
    > >
    > > "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > news:B5E01506-B20B-4A66-AFA4-ECF9EA5F44CE@microsoft.com...
    > > > Hi,
    > > > I was hoping to make an application with Access that can be used by

    folks
    > > > who may not have Access. An mde file cannot be opened without MS

    Access
    > > > (maybe I'm wrong about that).
    > > >
    > > > Is there a different method I should use?
    > > > Thank you,
    > > > Karl

    > >
    > >
    > >
     
  6. Karl H

    Karl H
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    Hi Douglas,
    Thank you...the developer's kit sounds the easiest to do. Searching the
    internet, I find one comment that says that costs about $495.00. Does that
    sound right? Microsoft site doesn't seem to find it when I search for that.
    Do you know where one finds the kit?
    Thank you,
    Karl

    "Douglas J Steele" wrote:

    > There's no way for users without Access to use an Access application.
    >
    > Your options include:
    >
    > 1) Rewriting your application in another technology that can be compiled to
    > an executable, such as VB, VC++, VB.Net, etc. Note that you can still use
    > the MDB file to store the data
    > 2) Convert your application to a web app
    > 3) Distribute your Access application together with the royalty-free runtime
    > version of Access. Note that this does not change your application in any
    > way, shape or form.
    >
    > --
    > Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
    > http://I.Am/DougSteele
    > (no e-mails, please!)
    >
    >
    > "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:CFE7389A-A7AE-4BDA-94EA-090E04FA52F5@microsoft.com...
    > > Hi Dean,
    > > Thank you for the response. It looks like there's quite a bit for me to
    > > review about run time files.
    > > In a nutshell, is it possible, without tons of work, to modify my
    > > application so others can use it if they don't have Access? If so, I'll

    > roll
    > > up my sleeves and see what needs to be done.
    > > Thank you,
    > > Karl
    > >
    > > "Dean" wrote:
    > >
    > > > No. You need to provide the Access Runtime files to these users.
    > > >
    > > > "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:B5E01506-B20B-4A66-AFA4-ECF9EA5F44CE@microsoft.com...
    > > > > Hi,
    > > > > I was hoping to make an application with Access that can be used by

    > folks
    > > > > who may not have Access. An mde file cannot be opened without MS

    > Access
    > > > > (maybe I'm wrong about that).
    > > > >
    > > > > Is there a different method I should use?
    > > > > Thank you,
    > > > > Karl
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    >
    >
    >
     
  7. Douglas J Steele

    Douglas J Steele
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    Microsoft doesn't sell previous versions of Developer's Edition.

    If you're going to use the latest version of Access, you'll need to purchase
    the following in order to create an Access 2003 runtime application:

    - Microsoft Access 2003
    - Visual Studio Tools for Office 2003 (which includes the Access 2003
    Developer Extensions)

    The ADE is the product that gives you the license to deploy the 2003 runtime
    components and you have to have Access 2003 installed in order to install
    the ADE.

    If you're using MSDN, note that while VSTO is available in all subscription
    levels of MSDN, the Access Developer Extensions are not included with all
    versions. ADE is only available at Universal level.

    The stand-alone VSTO box includes both VSTO and the ADE.

    See http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/office/officetools.aspx for more
    details

    If you want to stick with a level prior to Access 2003, one possibility is
    to check out sites that specialize in old software products, such as
    http://www.emsps.com/oldtools/ or http://recycledsoftware.com/

    Another is to look at someplace like eBay to see whether anyone's trying to
    see their old versions (Note, though, that products purchased this way
    aren't always legal...)

    You might check what Tony Toews has at
    http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/developereditionfaq.htm for more
    information.

    --
    Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
    http://I.Am/DougSteele
    (no e-mails, please!)


    "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:60F1437B-C35D-465C-AC6F-E06E7AC02014@microsoft.com...
    > Hi Douglas,
    > Thank you...the developer's kit sounds the easiest to do. Searching the
    > internet, I find one comment that says that costs about $495.00. Does that
    > sound right? Microsoft site doesn't seem to find it when I search for

    that.
    > Do you know where one finds the kit?
    > Thank you,
    > Karl
    >
    > "Douglas J Steele" wrote:
    >
    > > There's no way for users without Access to use an Access application.
    > >
    > > Your options include:
    > >
    > > 1) Rewriting your application in another technology that can be compiled

    to
    > > an executable, such as VB, VC++, VB.Net, etc. Note that you can still

    use
    > > the MDB file to store the data
    > > 2) Convert your application to a web app
    > > 3) Distribute your Access application together with the royalty-free

    runtime
    > > version of Access. Note that this does not change your application in

    any
    > > way, shape or form.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
    > > http://I.Am/DougSteele
    > > (no e-mails, please!)
    > >
    > >
    > > "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > news:CFE7389A-A7AE-4BDA-94EA-090E04FA52F5@microsoft.com...
    > > > Hi Dean,
    > > > Thank you for the response. It looks like there's quite a bit for me

    to
    > > > review about run time files.
    > > > In a nutshell, is it possible, without tons of work, to modify my
    > > > application so others can use it if they don't have Access? If so,

    I'll
    > > roll
    > > > up my sleeves and see what needs to be done.
    > > > Thank you,
    > > > Karl
    > > >
    > > > "Dean" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > No. You need to provide the Access Runtime files to these users.
    > > > >
    > > > > "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > > > news:B5E01506-B20B-4A66-AFA4-ECF9EA5F44CE@microsoft.com...
    > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > I was hoping to make an application with Access that can be used

    by
    > > folks
    > > > > > who may not have Access. An mde file cannot be opened without MS

    > > Access
    > > > > > (maybe I'm wrong about that).
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Is there a different method I should use?
    > > > > > Thank you,
    > > > > > Karl
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >

    > >
    > >
    > >
     
  8. Karl H

    Karl H
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    Hi Douglas,
    Thanks again for your help. Is the Access Runtime a huge installation for
    folks to receive, or does it go in pretty quick?
    Karl
     
  9. Douglas J Steele

    Douglas J Steele
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    Realistically, the runtime is the exact same msaccess.exe executable as the
    regular version of Access, with literally hundreds of registration settings
    that lock down what it can do. I'm not sure what the distribution size is
    for the current version: I do know that a couple of versions ago, it was
    around 100 Mb.

    --
    Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
    http://I.Am/DougSteele
    (no e-mails, please!)


    "Karl H" <KarlH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:96748DC4-64CE-4AE5-BAF6-CFB15B910914@microsoft.com...
    > Hi Douglas,
    > Thanks again for your help. Is the Access Runtime a huge installation for
    > folks to receive, or does it go in pretty quick?
    > Karl
    >
    >
     

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