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Controversial Concept of so-called Jhootah and Sikhism

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  1. Admin Singh

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    Taken from another thread, posted by Sherdil ji and as quoted above, what Guru Saab has said about Jooth (jhootah or jhootha)? Interestingly there is no proper word to translate the word Jhooth in English language... perhaps, Unclean...

    Please discuss with full shabds and/or panna/page numbers for a ready reference and preferably with your own understanding to enable fellow readers to join you and evolve.

    Gurfateh
     
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    ..appropriately befitting would be "leftovers"
     
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    Original ji, in aam bol chaal Punjabi, we usually say Guru Saab, nothing wrong in it... you can use Sahab or Sahib or Saheb, respect is eternal... not superficial...

    Let us focus on the topic... Please elaborate a bit more on Jhooth being leftovers...

    Thank you
     
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    I would describe "jhootah" as being food that has been partially consumed by someone else prior. I agree with the English translation of leftovers.

    Certain maryadas amongst Sikhs have expanded on the concept to include any food that has been prepared or touched by a non-amritdhari. Said food is deemed unsuitable for consumption by the Khalsa initiate.

    Khalsa from the Arabic word Khalis (pure).

    If we are to be selective as to whom we share a meal with, then let the criteria be thus:

    That person is said to be Khalis (pure) who is pure in thought and action. If the Beloved isn't found within their heart, then don't break bread with them.

    GGS, page 838:

    ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ਥਿਤੀ ਘਰੁ ੧੦ ਜਤਿ
    बिलावलु महला १ थिती घरु १० जति
    Bilāval mėhlā 1 thiṯī gẖar 10 jaṯ
    Bilaaval, First Mehl, T'hitee ~ The Lunar Days, Tenth House, To The Drum-Beat Jat:

    ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
    ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥
    Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯgur parsāḏ.
    One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

    ਏਕਮ ਏਕੰਕਾਰੁ ਨਿਰਾਲਾ ॥
    एकम एकंकारु निराला ॥
    Ėkam ekankār nirālā.
    The First Day: The One Universal Creator is unique,

    ਅਮਰੁ ਅਜੋਨੀ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਲਾ ॥
    अमरु अजोनी जाति न जाला ॥
    Amar ajonī jāṯ na jālā.
    immortal, unborn, beyond social class or involvement.

    ਅਗਮ ਅਗੋਚਰੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ॥
    अगम अगोचरु रूपु न रेखिआ ॥
    Agam agocẖar rūp na rekẖ▫i▫ā.
    He is inaccessible and unfathomable, with no form or feature.
    ਖੋਜਤ ਖੋਜਤ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਦੇਖਿਆ ॥

    खोजत खोजत घटि घटि देखिआ ॥
    Kẖojaṯ kẖojaṯ gẖat gẖat ḏekẖi▫ā.
    Searching, searching, I have seen Him in each and every heart

     
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    @Ishna ji,
    Thanks for your thoughtful responses on this futile stiff upper lip babble.

    Regarding Jhootah, it is a Hindu concept which literally means stained/spoiled/impure in Hindu mythology.

    The concept of Sangat and Pangat was created by our visionary Gurus to eradicate this non existent, nonsensical barrier erected by the stiff upper lipped Pundits to keep the 'stained people' at bay.

    Langar is the prime example of the eradication of Jhooth.
     
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    The deleted messages above were visible for a minimum of four full days. I have now deleted them as they are off topic.
     
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    In my city there are three Gurdwaras. One was founded by Malaysian diaspora Sikhs. The other two are "Punjabi". I was warned by someone not to go into the kitchen of one of the Gurdwaras, as they only allow Amritdharis to do seva.

    Meanwhile, at another Gurdwara, they practically drag you into the kitchen to help, which is lovely :thumbupp:
     
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