I'm wondering whether we are just deluding ourselves by stating that case that Sikhism is for TOTAL equality of the sexes when in reality and in teaches and historical times of the Guru's there is little evidence for this. For example Guru Govind Singh ji created the Khalsa (saint soliders) Out of a crowd of thousands of Sikhs only 5 dared stand up and openly embrace death by giving their lives to the Guru. Thus the panj pyare were born and Sikh men were given the title Singh (lion) and Sikh women the title Kaur (princess). These are gender specific titles and rightly so... cos 5 MEN stood up and were prepared to lay down their lives for Guru Ji no woman did.... Guru Ji did not created Singhnee's (lioness's) or Kaurar's (princes's ???) lolz Yet we have some groups of western Sikhs who want the rights for women to be panj pyare, which I find absurd cos historically its set in stone. There is no question however of Sikh women not being warriors are history has shown many have gone into battle, arms raised, hand in hand with their menfolk, against the enemies of the time. And another example when Guru Nanak Dev Ji talked about women being put down by Muslim and Hindu texts and practises I believe he was saying treat them with respect and with compassion becos they human and not some tool to be used and abused. Yet now we have society in the West were the role of man is devalued and has largely become irrelevant appart from hard manual labour. It goes to show TOTAL equality of the sexes does not and will not ever come about. Because there willl always be these extremes where sexes discriminate each other in the family or the workplace. Let me state though in spirituality terms, both sexes are equal and no one gender is superior in the eyes of God according to Sikhism to my understanding. But practially we have roles in society which we should adhere to and not cross unless we want society to descend into anarchy and the collapse of the human social structure, which has seen us through all the ages of human history.