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Can God Make a Rock So Big He Can't Move It?

Discussion in 'Interfaith Dialogues' started by etinder, Aug 11, 2004.

  1. etinder

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    "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    what do u say?:)
     
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  3. Neutral Singh

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    Well, this earth is a moving object... a rock is just a little part of it...
     
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    u didnt get it right dear friend i m asking can he make that big a rock that he can't move
     
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    God has created one already..

    The human mind.
     
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    I agree with Sikh ji partially. The human mind may not be moved by him alone, but He can move (still better bless) his (human) mind to cause the rock move.

    Thanks.
     
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    At first, when I read that I thought 'good point'
    but actually no - cause With Guru's Kirpa even Kauda Rakas and SAjjan Thug became premis afterwards!

    bhull chukk maaf
    GurFAteh
     
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    The writer of this question is far more intelligant than he sounds here....
    this is a pretty odd thing for me to talk about.. coz to start with i m an athiest....
    but i will try...
    GOD has aleady created a rock he cannot move....and that is the evil that exists... and god my friend is unable to move it..coz its almost KALYUG now... still growing into a much worse YUG.that is symobllically speaking....
    literally speaking....no it is not possible... coz...GOD.. is the allmight.. aal powerful whom nothing is impossible....so NO he cannot create a rock he cannot move.
     
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    Only He has the ability to create the biggest rocks and then also move those. Nothing is beyond his powers. Dont take 'nothing' as an entity, which is not within His powers, I mean - Everything is within His powers :)
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    That would be the same as asking:


    What will happen when the UNSTOPPABLE cannon ball ( NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING can STOP this cannon ball !!) meets the UNBREAKABLE WALL ( NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING can breakdown this wall )

    An atheist once posed me this question:
    What action will make BOTH God and SATAN angry ? You see that according to LOGIC, GOD only gets "angry" at EVIL actions.....and SATAN only gets 'angry" at GOOD actions.....so what can possibly get BOTH God and Satan angry.
    The answer was:
    Both God and Satan will be angry at the action of the person who rapes the Satan's daughter. God will be angry because rape is an evil act....and Satan will also be angry because his own daughter is raped....so BOTH will be angry at this one action . COOL.


    Just my random thoughts on seeing this question...

    Jarnail singh
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    Not necessarily.
    Satan is Evil personnified, Since rape is evil then he should be happy.
    If he was angry, that would mean that he's going against himself.
    Satan would be caught in a catch 22 between a choice of the evils of lust (the sinner) and ego (his own).



    On the actual topic at hand, i'd have to say no.
    To say that God can't move something he made is to admit that God is not infallible, thus imperfect, and we all know that isn't the case...
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    Although we Sikhs have been bestowed with the right definition and notion of ONE TRUE GOD as CREATIVE ENERGY or as Amarpal ji likes to call it as COSMIC INTELLIGENCE, we still gravitate towards the WRONG notion of HE/SHE/IT by visualising IK ONG KAAR as a physical entity. Hence, by defining it in this way (which is NON GURMAT),we are creating useless dogmas which in result create worthless rituals

    IK ONG KAAR, The CREATIVE ENERGY is very dynamic, always changing. All that has been formed into rocks was just some gas in the begining. Rocks are made by fusion of The CREATIVE ENERGY and also destroyed by IT.

    So for a Sikh this question is irrelevant as ONE TRUE GOD is NOT physical being that can move things with his hands or kick them using his feet but IS FORMLESS, GENDERLESS, TIMELESS..........

    That's why for a Sikh, IK ONG KAAR is not a belief but ONE TRUE GOD IS
    which makes SIKHI a way of life sans dogma.

    Tejwant
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    Ah hah.

    So in terms a dumb kid like me understands
    The Universe is a physical manifestation of this Creative Energy, so the original question thus becomes irrelevent.
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    Although I know that this thread is long dead I will make an assertion that I think the original poster is well aware of.

    The concept of a "rock that is so heavy that god can't lift it" is a LOGICAL impossibility. It ammounts to the equivalent of saying can god create a square circle. The concept of a "square circle" is logically impossible (ie. impossible given what the terms mean) the same goes for the purported rock.
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    squared circle

    have you seen leanordo da vinci's man
    that is scientifically and geometrically correct

    but answer to question is god can do whatever he pleases

    come on get real

    look at all the stars they are all like our sun
    billions and billions of light years away

    he has created all this with effortless ease
    and we seriously debating this

    GET REAL PEOPLE
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    But this is not a "square circle" it is an illustration containing both a square and a circle. A square has four sides and circle is a curved plane equidistant from the centre. Something can't be both of these things at the same time. In the same way that "a rock that god can't lift" is impossible given the meanings of the terms.
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    bha ji ravi

    utmost respect my bro
     
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    21Khalsa 13,

    Right back at you!

    Ravi Singh
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    The questioner is asking can God create something more powerful than Himself...All the strength and power contained within that which He creates (which in this case is a large rock) actually belongs to Him. Size is a perception of the human mind within the world of dimensions, but God creates size and dimensions so how can size overpower Him?! Incomparably Great is The Almighty. This question is an insult to the intelligence of anyone who knows that all power belongs to He. If u want a testimony to His endless power look at how this huge earth effortlessly spins around the sun. THERE IS NOTHING HE CAN'T DO. He is the creator of all things. All power belongs to God. If u disagree then avoid death.
     
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    Re: "CAN GOD MAKE A ROCK SO BIG HE CAN'T MOVE IT?"

    Such questions deal in semantics and linguistics and not spiritual reality. It is the old and tired question of what happens when an immovable object meets an irresistible force. I am enjoying reading the Guru Granth Sahib Ji tonight and am amazed at how truth is the same for the Sikh and the Chassidic ***. I often wondered how long I will have to leave the auto parts in my yard before they become a car on their own. All one has to do is look at creation to see there is a Creator. Quantum Physics, Sacred Geometry, and Kabbalah all point to Intelligent Design which logically points to a Designer.
     

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