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Can God create a mountain which he cannot lift?

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  1. gsingh2011

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    This is a very interesting question someone asked me the other day:
    Can God create a mountain which he cannot lift?

    Now before you answer, note that I am not questioning Vaheguru's strength. I am simply curious to the solutions you give. If anyone does not see the contradiction here, I will explain it.

    If God can do anything, he can create a mountain which he cannot lift. But it was just stated that he could do anything, so how can he not lift something?

    If God cannot make a mountain which he cannot lift, then he cannot do something.

    Now I believe there is an answer to this question, something beyond the simple yes or no, and I'm hoping one of you may have the answer :)

    Thanks.
     
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    God created the ant to do his job. Kabeer Ji says,

    Page 477, Line 7
    ਕਹਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਰੇ ਸੰਤਹੁ ਕੀਟੀ ਪਰਬਤੁ ਖਾਇਆ ॥
    कहत कबीर सुनहु रे संतहु कीटी परबतु खाइआ ॥
    Kahaṯ Kabīr sunhu re sanṯahu kītī parbaṯ kẖā▫i▫ā.
    Says Kabeer, listen, O Saints - the ant has eaten the mountain.
    Devotee Kabir - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
     
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    Actually I don't think you can get a right answer by asking a wrong question.

    Page 613, Line 18
    ਕੀਤੇ ਕਉ ਮੇਰੈ ਸੰਮਾਨੈ ਕਰਣਹਾਰੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਣੁ ਜਾਨੈ ॥
    कीते कउ मेरै समानै करणहारु त्रिणु जानै ॥
    Kīṯe ka▫o merai sammānai karanhār ṯariṇ jānai.
    He looks upon the creation like a mountain of gold, and sees the Creator as a blade of grass.
    Guru Arjan Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
     
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    Guru Ji further explains,

    Page 714, Line 9
    ਗਲੀ ਸੈਲ ਉਠਾਵਤ ਚਾਹੈ ਓਇ ਊਹਾ ਹੀ ਹੈ ਧਰੇ ॥
    गली सैल उठावत चाहै ओइ ऊहा ही है धरे ॥
    Galī sail uṯẖāvaṯ cẖāhai o▫e ūhā hī hai ḏẖare.
    People want to lift up the mountain with mere words, but it just stays there.
    Guru Arjan Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
     
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    The right question, in my opinion, would be asking if God is separate from His creation or within His creation. Guru Ji explains,

    <table cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><td>ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ
    सलोक मः १ ॥
    Salok mėhlā 1.
    Shalok, First Mehl:

    </td></tr> <tr><td>ਵਾਹੁ ਖਸਮ ਤੂ ਵਾਹੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਰਚਿ ਰਚਨਾ ਹਮ ਕੀਏ
    वाहु खसम तू वाहु जिनि रचि रचना हम कीए ॥
    vāhu kẖasam ṯū vāhu jin racẖ racẖnā ham kī▫e.
    Waaho! Waaho! You are wonderful and great, O Lord and Master; You created the creation, and made us.

    </td></tr> <tr><td>ਸਾਗਰ ਲਹਰਿ ਸਮੁੰਦ ਸਰ ਵੇਲਿ ਵਰਸ ਵਰਾਹੁ
    सागर लहरि समुंद सर वेलि वरस वराहु ॥
    Sāgar lahar samunḏ sar vel varas varāhu.
    You made the waters, waves, oceans, pools, plants, clouds and mountains.

    </td></tr> <tr><td>ਆਪਿ ਖੜੋਵਹਿ ਆਪਿ ਕਰਿ ਆਪੀਣੈ ਆਪਾਹੁ
    आपि खड़ोवहि आपि करि आपीणै आपाहु ॥
    Āp kẖaṛovėh āp kar āpīṇai āpāhu.
    You Yourself stand in the midst of what You Yourself created.
    </td></tr></tbody></table>Ang 788
     
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    This one, NamJap ji, really answers the question very well.
     
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