Welcome to SPN

Register and Join the most happening forum of Sikh community & intellectuals from around the world.

Sign Up Now!

Analysis of Karni Nama in Sau Sakhi - The Sikh Book of Prophecy

Discussion in 'Sikh Sikhi Sikhism' started by Admin Singh, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. Admin Singh

    Admin Singh
    Expand Collapse
    Admin SPNer

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2004
    Messages:
    5,978
    Likes Received:
    5,043
    <!-- If you can't see this message properly, then you are unable to see HTML formatted emails. Please change your setting in the control panel to receive the community bulletin in Text format. http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/profile.php?do=editoptions --><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" /><html><head><style type="text/css" id="vbulletin_css">/*** vBulletin 3.8.5 CSS* Style: 'SPN New'; Style ID: 22*/@import url(http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/"clientscript/vbulletin_css/style-b2857e79-00022.css");</style><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="clientscript/vbulletin_important.css?v=385" /></head><body><table><br /><tr><br /><td><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net"><img width="295" height="188" border="0" src="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/webchat/misc/saint-soldier4.jpg"></a><br /><br />To recover your forgotten password: <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/login.php?do=lostpw">Click Here</a><br /><br /><strong>$username Ji, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji Ki Fateh!!</strong><br /><br />This week's newsletter focuses on a fascinating topic of Karni Nama & Raj Nama from the book Sau-Sakhi, the so called "The Sikh Book of Prophecy". <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/30035-karni-nama-raj-nama-sikh-book.html">Karni Nama and Raj Nama: The Sikh Book of Prophecy</a> analyzed by Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji Arshi (Malaysia)<br /><br /><strong>Synopsis</strong>: This compositions do not portray Guru Nanak Correctly. Prophecy is NOT a part of Gurmatt... because this interferes with His HUKM - no matter what its HE who decides ultimatley what will happen..and He can change His Mind at the last split second..so NOTHING is for certain..its ALL in HIS MIND only..NO one else KNOWS. These words cannot be spoken by Guru nanak Ji because whatever He "spoke" was Khasam ki Bani...and that is recorded in the AAD Granth (SGGS) by Guru Arjen Ji Sahib. IF these words were indeed spoken by Guru Nanak ji sahib..they would have been recorded in the SGGS. The authorship of this poem is UNKNOWN. No certification by Bhai Gurdass Ji, the well known Historian who wrote the Vaars describing Guru nanak Jis journeys and travels and this is not mentioned in his vaars or writings. The Poem looks like the well crafted "backward" plots used by most novelists. This technique is when a writer wants to spin a tall tale (fiction) he actually BEGINS at the END...and works BACKWARD to the beginning. All his readers will begin reading form the START (naturally)...and as the tale unfolds..will discover certain clues etc..BUT the author has all this sorted out well before hand. NOTICE the ANTI-MUSLIM BIAS stands out like a SORE THUMB. Typical of the work of writers who had an ANTI-MUSLIM streak. This goes very much AGAINST GURMATT (universal religion), the PRACTICE of the GURUS in real Life as we can see form AUTHENTIC SIKH HISTORY. Guru Nanak ji went to Mecca, Medina, into Mosques to Pray with he Muslims, Guru Nanak ji had much to advise the Muslims about their religion... The succeeding GURUS had very very good and close relations with many Muslims..Mian Mir, paindeh Khan, Syeds and all....the Fantastic relationship Guru Gobind Singh Ji had with Pir Budhu Shah is LEGENDARY - Pir martyred 700 of his MUSLIM MUREEDS and His FOUR SONS fighting FOR Guru Gobind Singh Ji AGAINST FELLOW MUSLIMS in the battle of Bhangani ( This battle is completely wiped out of the Natak that is supposedly Guru Jis AUTOBIOGRAPHY - solid proof that the natak was penned by an anti-muslim writer out to WHITEWASH this episode of Sikh UNIVERSALITY BROTHERHOOD and sarbatt da Bhalla).<br /><br />Quote: The Unholy Sheikhs shall be destroyed. Pirs and Mureeds shall be no more. Many Dharamsalas (places of discussion) shall exist. The Koran and the Mosques shall vanish. No other religion will remain!!<br /><br /><strong>Read More:: <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/30035-karni-nama-raj-nama-sikh-book.html">Karni Nama and Raj Nama: The Sikh Book of Prophecy</a></strong><br /><br />How to Share Your Views? Please note to share your views, you must <a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/login.php">Login (click here)</a> to the forum and then post your views in the relevant topics.<br /><br />Besides for weekly update of forum activities, please have a look at the bottom of this message.<br /> <br />Gurfateh,<br /><br /><br />Aman Singh<br />Sikh Philosophy Network<br />Think Discover Share Learn Evolve<br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/">Sikh Philosophy Network</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/homepage.php?pageid=sendinvites">Invite Your Friends</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/daily-hukumnama-sikh.html">Daily Hukumnama</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/gurmat-vichaar-project/">Gurmat Vichaar Project</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/sikh-toolbar-sikh.html">Download Sikhism Toolbar</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/local_links.php">Gurbani MP3 Downloads</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/homepage.php?pageid=books-store">Book Store</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/showgroups.php">Meet Forum Leaders</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/homepage.php?pageid=sendinvites">Invite Your Friends</a><br /><a href="http://www.sikhphilosphy.net/sendmessage.php">Contact Us</a><br /><br /></td><br /></tr><br /></table><br /><table class="tborder" width="100%" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1"><tr> <td class="tcat" colspan="2"><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net"><font size="4" face="arial,helvetica"><B>Sikh Philosophy Network Newsletter</b></a></td></tr><tr> <td class="alt1Active">Today's Date 26-Apr-2010.<br /><br />Activity since 20-Apr-2010 </td></tr></table><br /><table class="tborder" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="6" width="100%"><thead><tr> <td class="thead"><b>Title:</b></td> <td class="thead"><b>Thread Starter:</b></td> <td class="thead"><b>Thread Start Date:</b></td> <td class="thead"><b>Replies:</b></td> <td class="thead"><b>Views:</b></td> <td class="thead"><b>Last Post:</b></td> <td class="thead"><b>Username:</b></td></tr><tr class="tcat"> <td colspan="7"><b><i>-- Threads posted most recently --</i></b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30161">Sikhs Must Learn from Recent Violence</a><br />This weekend the Sikh community celebrates the Khalsa festival, a time to educate Canadians about ...</td> <td>Aman Singh</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>41</td> <td>09:26 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>Aman Singh</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30160">Toronto Sikh celebration without incident despite recent tensions</a><br />source: ...</td> <td>Soul_jyot</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>56</td> <td>08:31 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>Soul_jyot</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30159">Why Anti-Depressants Don't Work for Treating Depression</a><br />The 7 Keys to UltraWellness: Discover Why You are Sick and How You Can Heal ...</td> <td>Tejwant Singh</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>1</td> <td>39</td> <td>08:13 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>namjap</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30158">What Evangelicals and Atheists Have in Common</a><br />What Evangelicals and Atheists Have in Common / / Skye Jethani: What ...</td> <td>Tejwant Singh</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>45</td> <td>07:24 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>Tejwant Singh</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30157">Toronto Sikhs enjoy peaceful Khalsa parade</a><br />Toronto Sikhs enjoy peaceful Khalsa parade / / CBC News - Toronto - Toronto Sikhs enjoy peaceful ...</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>40</td> <td>07:18 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30155">When Sikhs Fought Along Side Kiwis and Aussies</a><br />When the Sikhs fought alongside Kiwis and Aussies / / Few of us Kiwi Indians – ...</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>31</td> <td>07:12 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30156">When Sikhs Fought Along Side Kiwis and Aussies</a><br /></td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>07:12 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30154">Amnesty International says UAE abused Indian prisoners</a><br />Rights group Amnesty International has condemned authorities in the United Arab Emirates over the ...</td> <td>mai harinder kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>32</td> <td>07:06 AM, 26-Apr-2010</td> <td>mai harinder kaur</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30153">Monty Panesar: Sikhs are warriors and I'm a fighter, I’ll never give up - spinner vows to win back England place</a><br />The honeymoon is over for Monty Panesar as he begins a new season fighting to win back his England ...</td> <td>Aman Singh</td> <td>25-Apr-2010</td> <td>0</td> <td>42</td> <td>19:48 PM, 25-Apr-2010</td> <td>Aman Singh</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30152">Rise in Extremism or Rise in Hysteria? Canadian Sikhs Setting the Record Straight</a><br />As per an entry on facebook UD's grandfather was jailed by 'British India' for 'Terrorist' ...</td> <td>Soul_jyot</td> <td>25-Apr-2010</td> <td>2</td> <td>69</td> <td>20:15 PM, 25-Apr-2010</td> <td>roab1</td></tr><tr class="tcat"> <td colspan="7"><b><i>-- Threads with the most replies --</i></b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8550">How Many Sikhs Have Married Out Of Caste/Race?</a><br />Atheist ji / / Your last response has been moved. / / I think I was being polite and careful of ...</td> <td>Randip Singh</td> <td>12-Apr-2006</td> <td>641</td> <td>18274</td> <td>22:20 PM, 29-Mar-2010</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8828">Fools Who Wrangle Over Flesh</a><br />1. Those mortals who consume marijuana, flesh and wine - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and ...</td> <td>Randip Singh</td> <td>24-May-2006</td> <td>630</td> <td>43406</td> <td>20:34 PM, 02-Sep-2009</td> <td>Randip Singh</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=16532">Creation in Islam</a><br />S.S,Akal Ji. / / Your comments are 100% correct from every facet of of different beliefs except ...</td> <td>azizrasul</td> <td>03-Aug-2007</td> <td>457</td> <td>28024</td> <td>20:32 PM, 24-Apr-2010</td> <td>jaspi</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27594">Creation in Islam</a><br /></td> <td>azizrasul</td> <td>03-Aug-2007</td> <td>448</td> <td>26081</td> <td>12:10 PM, 16-Sep-2009</td> <td>NALWA</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19100">Nanak is The Guru, Nanak is The Lord Himself</a><br />Please use a civil tongue. (aad0002)</td> <td>Sikh80</td> <td>07-Jan-2008</td> <td>440</td> <td>33060</td> <td>08:06 AM, 07-Mar-2009</td> <td>onewithinall</td></tr><tr class="tcat"> <td colspan="7"><b><i>-- Threads with the most views --</i></b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=16932">Useful mp3 Gurbani Free Download Links</a><br />patiarianwale ji / / That is really nice of you to say. SPN tries hard to live up to your interests ...</td> <td>harpreetsingh</td> <td>01-Sep-2007</td> <td>10</td> <td>63347</td> <td>08:47 AM, 26-Dec-2009</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2015">Sikhism And Tattoos</a><br />:unsure:Dear CaramelChocolate, the fact is that God"s person is a naked being with hair allover his ...</td> <td>Neutral Singh</td> <td>19-Feb-2005</td> <td>237</td> <td>55188</td> <td>19:08 PM, 11-Mar-2010</td> <td>jasbirkaleka</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=4981">Sikh Girls: A Confused Lot. Are Parents To Blame?</a><br />:welcome:..everyone .......There has been a great difference between old n new age sikhs...Old sikhs ...</td> <td>Neutral Singh</td> <td>12-Jul-2005</td> <td>345</td> <td>40449</td> <td>11:21 AM, 26-Dec-2009</td> <td>FiveLovedOnes</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26434">Gyani Sant Singh Ji Maskeen</a><br /></td> <td>Neutral Singh</td> <td>18-Feb-2005</td> <td>56</td> <td>35021</td> <td>06:45 AM, 26-Aug-2009</td> <td>AdsKhalsa</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5653">Gurmat Sangeet - Sikh Musical Instruments</a><br />Could you please point out the errors and perhaps, provide us with sources? / / / Thanks. It would ...</td> <td>rsingh</td> <td>02-Oct-2005</td> <td>5</td> <td>34856</td> <td>21:43 PM, 12-Jun-2009</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td></tr><tr class="tcat"> <td colspan="7"><b><i>-- Threads with no replies yet --</i></b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30161">Sikhs Must Learn from Recent Violence</a><br />This weekend the Sikh community celebrates the Khalsa festival, a time to educate Canadians about ...</td> <td>Aman Singh</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30160">Toronto Sikh celebration without incident despite recent tensions</a><br />source: ...</td> <td>Soul_jyot</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30158">What Evangelicals and Atheists Have in Common</a><br />What Evangelicals and Atheists Have in Common / / Skye Jethani: What ...</td> <td>Tejwant Singh</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30157">Toronto Sikhs enjoy peaceful Khalsa parade</a><br />Toronto Sikhs enjoy peaceful Khalsa parade / / CBC News - Toronto - Toronto Sikhs enjoy peaceful ...</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30155">When Sikhs Fought Along Side Kiwis and Aussies</a><br />When the Sikhs fought alongside Kiwis and Aussies / / Few of us Kiwi Indians – ...</td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30156">When Sikhs Fought Along Side Kiwis and Aussies</a><br /></td> <td>Narayanjot Kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30154">Amnesty International says UAE abused Indian prisoners</a><br />Rights group Amnesty International has condemned authorities in the United Arab Emirates over the ...</td> <td>mai harinder kaur</td> <td>26-Apr-2010</td></tr></table><br /><table class="tborder" Border="0" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="6" width="100%"><tr class="tcat"> <td colspan="2" Align="center"><b>New Polls:</b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td nowrap colspan="2" ><b>Poll: <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=608">Do you think the Guilty should be awarded strict punishments?</a></b></td></tr><tr class="alt1" align="left"> <td nowrap align="right">Yes, I do! </td> <td align="left" width="95%"><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" alt="" width="3" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3.gif" width="5" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" /></td></tr><tr class="alt1" align="left"> <td nowrap align="right">No, I support such violence! </td> <td align="left" width="95%"><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" alt="" width="3" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3.gif" width="0" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" /></td></tr><tr class="alt1" align="left"> <td nowrap align="right">Not Sure...</td> <td align="left" width="95%"><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" alt="" width="3" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3.gif" width="0" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" /></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td nowrap colspan="2" ><b>Poll: <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30130">Do you think the Guilty should be awarded strict punishments?</a></b></td></tr><tr class="alt1" align="left"> <td nowrap align="right">Yes, I do! </td> <td align="left" width="95%"><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" alt="" width="3" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3.gif" width="5" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" /></td></tr><tr class="alt1" align="left"> <td nowrap align="right">No, I support such violence! </td> <td align="left" width="95%"><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" alt="" width="3" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3.gif" width="0" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" /></td></tr><tr class="alt1" align="left"> <td nowrap align="right">Not Sure...</td> <td align="left" width="95%"><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" alt="" width="3" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3.gif" width="0" height="10" /><IMG SRC="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" /></td></tr></thead> </table><br /><table class="tborder" border="0" width="100%"><tr> <td><font size="2" face="arial,helvetica"><b><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/calendar.php?c=1">Upcoming Events - SPN Calendar of Events</a>:</b></td></tr><tr class="tcat"> <td><b>Ranged Events</b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><b>29-Sep-2009:</b></td></tr><tr class="alt2"> <td><ul><li><span class="smallfont">(09-28 --> 04-26)</span> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=400&c=1">Journey into the Heart of Sikh Dharma</a><br /></li></ul></td></tr></table><table border="0" class="tborder" width="100%"><tr class="tcat"> <td><font size="2" face="arial,helvetica" color=""><b>Upcoming Birthdays:</b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/member.php?u=1024">shingara singh</a></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/member.php?u=1254">fsingh</a></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/member.php?u=1026">sikhikhas</a></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/member.php?u=10713">hsb_401</a></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/member.php?u=10998">luckykamal2001</a></td></tr></table><br /><table border="0" class="tborder" width="100%"><tr class="tcat"> <td colspan="2"><b>STATISTICS</b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td><b>We have had the following activity since 20-Apr-2010</b></td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td>49 New Members</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td>76 New Threads</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td>365 New Posts</td></tr><tr class="alt1"> <td>2 New Polls</td></tr></table><br /><br /><hr><font size="2">To unsubscribe from the community updates, click this link <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/profile.php?do=editoptions">Unsubscribe</a> and uncheck "Receive Community Bulletin Newsletters".Currently, community updates are sent weekly.<br /><br />Best regards, The Sikh Philosophy Network Administrators.<br /><br /><br /></body></html>
     
  2. Loading...


Share This Page