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General 15 Horrifying Reasons to Never Let Anyone You Love Near a McDonald's

Discussion in 'Hard Talk' started by Vikram singh, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. Vikram singh

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    Thats Shocking!! :eek:
     
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    I love posts like this! more reasons to go Vegan:happy:
     
  6. Gyani Jarnail Singh

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    YES JI..BUT also STOP drinking MILK and all dairy Products as well. Cows are being most cruelly treated..for their "WHITE BLOOD"...made into butter/ghee/cheese etc...
    Another Vegan !!
     
  7. BhagatSingh

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    Well they are, aren't they...:unsure:

    As long as there is LASSI on my table who needs milk?? :crazy:
     
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    Bhagat Ji..and where does LASSI come from ? mango trees ?? he he he..:happykudi:
     
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  9. Gyani Jarnail Singh

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    another view i just read...

    GOOD BYE MEAT....NO MORE I SAY....
    MARCH 16 — I have not eaten red or white meat for almost a year. Recently, I even said goodbye to seafood.
    I have completely given up eating animals.
    Three main reasons have influenced my decision to stop eating animals in the 21st century: one, consuming meat is extremely harmful to the environment; two, purchasing meat is not worth the suffering it inflicts on the animals; and three, producing meat for mass consumption is simply not healthy.
    For me, eating meat is simply unjustifiable.
    I just finished reading Jonathan Safran Foer’s provocative new book “Eating Animals” (2009).
    Preparing for the book, he spent three years trying to decide, through detailed investigation, whether he wanted to raise his newborn son as a meat eater or a vegetarian. He decided on the latter.
    His conclusions were my catalyst for change.
    The book is full of mind-blowing revelations. For example: Animal agriculture makes a 40 per cent greater contribution to global warming than all transportation in the world combined; it is the number one cause of climate change.
    Eating meat has other environmental implications as well. Rainforests are being cut down to make way for these farms — destroying biodiversity.
    More fields are used to grow feed for these animals than to grow food for us!
    Seafood is delicious, but large scale fishing is entirely unsustainable. As reported on BBC News, if trends continue, all major global fisheries will be depleted by 2050 (Black, 2006).
    Eating meat is just not green.
    An average American consumes 21,000 whole animals over a lifetime. The majority of these animals are factory farmed.
    It’s important to remember that all meat comes from sentient beings. In the movie “Earthlings” (2007), one gets to see the harsh reality of where our meat comes from. Chickens crammed together in cages no bigger than a shoebox, cows skinned alive as they dangle by their legs from hooks, pigs poked, prodded and underfed, and dolphins being clubbed en masse.
    Safran Foer spends a lot of time explaining how fish are no different, and just as deserving of our compassion.
    However, most of us are disconnected from all of this. What we see is small cubes of meat ready for our consumption.
    The whole “pain-filled” process is hidden. Why is it that the pleasure we derive from eating meat is enough to justify the act?
    In the words of Safran Foer, “Compassion is a muscle that gets stronger with use, and the regular exercise of choosing kindness over cruelty would change us.”
    Our meat consumption even creates disease. Zoonotic pathogens (animal-human or human-animal) result from our close contact with animals.
    Safran Foer explains how the 1918 Spanish flu (a form of avian influenza) killed up to 100 million people worldwide in the course of a year and we may be leading ourselves down a similar road. Keep in mind that H1N1 derived from pig farming.
    Farmed chickens are no better — with 95 per cent infected with E.Coli, 90 per cent Capylobacter, and 8 per cent Salmonella.
    Due to their weak immune systems from altered genetics and harsh living conditions, they are very susceptible to diseases. We are setting up the conditions for the creation of a new super-pathogen.
    Films like the Academy-award nominated Food Inc. (2009) demonstrate how dangerous our factory farmed meat can be. One woman in the movie discussed the death of her little boy from a contaminated hamburger. What makes the story even sadder is she is not alone. There are many people who have suffered from eating what appeared to be an innocent meal.
    Many Malaysians like meat. It is an important component of the local diet.
    About 25 per cent of total protein intake is from meats (Mohamed & Abdullah, 1987). In fact, a 2000 USDA report listed Malaysia as the number one consumer of seafood per capita, with the average person eating a whopping 374 pounds!
    According to Maria Divina Sinalubong-Paraguas from Universiti Sains Malaysia (2006) “with rapid population growth and improved per capita income as well as lifestyle changes resulting from urbanisation, it is predicted that there will be further increases in demand for meat products in the country.”
    As development in Malaysia continues so will the increase of factory-farmed meat and seafood consumption.
    While researching this article, I found statistics — but no mention of how Malaysians feel about the treatment of animals bred for consumption on factory farms or fished from the sea.
    Furthermore, there is apparently little concern over environmental impact. A notable exception is a recently published letter in theSun from the president of the Consumer Association of Penang, S.M. Mohamed Idris.
    He asked for the closure of all shrimp farming operations. This industry is devastating the local mangrove ecosystem with far-reaching consequences.
    Meat consumption is not a necessity for human survival. The vegetarian diet can be healthier than an omnivorous one as you can get protein from sources such as beans and soya.
    As reported in the Huffington Post on July 13, 2008, impressive data arises from a study of 1904 vegetarians over 21 years by the German Cancer Research Center (Deutsche Krebsforschungszentrum). The study’s shocking results: vegetarian men reduced their risk of early death by 50 per cent! Women vegetarians benefit from a 30 per cent reduction in mortality! On a personal note, all of my friends who are vegetarian seem to be doing well.
    I am afraid of where we are heading. Do we care about the perpetuating effects of global warming? Do we care about our health? Do we care about the treatment of these animals? Do you care?
    If you are just eating meat for pleasure, is that just? What would it take for you to live life without your favourite meat dish? I challenge you to reflect on your choice of diet.
    Not only should you think about your health, but your role as a global citizen. In the words of Jonathan Safran Foer, “when we lift our forks [chopsticks, hands — whatever you use to eat] we hang our" hats" (dastaars/Patkas) somewhere.”
     
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    And this person replied....
    The problem with this kind of article is that all you accomplish is preaching to the choir. Of course the vegetarians will agree and enjoy the article, it's pretty much an echo of how they think and they wouldn't be vegetarians already if they didn't subscribe to that kind of thinking. Don't we all love reading something on MI confirming how right we are in the way we live our lives?

    Unfortunately the condescending tone you exude (whether you realise it or not) is going to put off your real target audience, the meat eaters. Telling people what tantamounts "your meat eating habits are evil and will ruin the world" isn't going to make anyone listen.

    This coming from someone whose last three meals were completely devoid of meat.

    Sadly most of the problems you describe and attribute to the practice of eating meat isn't simply due to that dietary choice. Rather, it's the mass-marketing meat industry pushing for cheaper and cheaper meat that is at fault. It's the greedy trawling boats having to satisfy the lust for cheap fish to the point where they openly fish in marine parks (Pulau Tioman, anyone?).

    Wanna solve those problems? Push for sustainable farming and fishing. Punish the corrupted officials that let them get away with it. Oh sure you can say that when the demand stops the killing can too and all that, but keep on dreaming; the demand will never stop. Humans are omnivores and there is no getting around it. It is when they pass the line from omnivore to pure carnivore when I would get worried.

    Really want to make a difference? Educate people on the benefits they get when they opt for meat produced by sustainable farming.

    Expand their diet to not just eating the same old few meats, chicken, beef, lamb fish... Did you know locusts and sago larvae are perfectly edible, high protein/low fat to boot? Sadly, most people will go EW at the thought of eating insects, since they have been taught that eating insects is icky but yet have no problem eating the by product of an insect (honey).

    Simplest of all to do, convince people of the benefits of eating less meat (but no need stop completely). Most people nowadays eat far too much meat. Actually, they eat far too much food, period, but that's a rant for another time.

    In short, the message shouldn't be: "DON'T EAT MEAT". It should be "THERE ARE OTHER THINGS BESIDES MEAT AS WELL. THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOOD TASTING. TRY THEM".

    By having two people simply eating less meat (quality over quantity) and learning to enjoy a more varied diet you'll get the same effect as one person going vegetarian, minus the self-righteous stigma that goes with it. And other people might actually follow the example, too.

    :happysingh:
     
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    So you are saying Lassi doesn't come from Lassi-flavoured mango trees?:eek:

    :D

    Ok serious question. How do you know this:
    What, dare I say, evidence do you have?
     
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    Bhagat ji..its an OPINION piece i quoted from another source...the writer is a Malaysian malay muslim...:happy:
     
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    Lol was he/she saying that meat is this, meat is that so eat halal?
     
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    Can I ask a question.

    Would people eat a Vege burger from Mcdonalds?

    I certainly wouldn't, although I have eaten the odd Fillet O Fish when in a rush and regretted it 1 hour later *burps*
     
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    For Him Lassi comes from Mango tree.HA!HA!HA
     
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    for who?
     
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    There is a joke going on about 6 posts above about lassi and mango-trees. You have to read back to see it. LOL
     
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    Lassi For Mr Bhagat...
     
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    I guess I'll have to start going to Burger Kings instead.....:grinningsingh:
     
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    None of the people closest to me like McDonald's. I, in fact, nearly get nauseated every time I pass by one, as the smell of grease disgusts me. There is only 1 fast food, and that's Del Taco. Their chicken casadillas are the best! ;) Yeah, I know, not really much better but still, a little is better than none. And it's REAL grilled chicken!

    Namaste
     
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