Meditate - How, What, Where and When?

Kaha Bhayo jo dou lochan moond kay, baith rahio bak Dhyan lagai

Nahat phiryo liya saat samundran, lok gayo parlok gavaio. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji
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What are you trying to gain by closing both your eyes with your mind focused.
looking for holy places to bath while seven seas are with your self when life is wasted heaven is lost.

The idea is to contemplate and search for truth merely reciting words and focusing on them does nothing
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Yeah, that's what I said in my first post.

Thanks though.

Yes,Now I agree with your message.
Also try to see the form of the word WAHEGURU there is no such word in Gurbanne with this type of Pronunciation.

Prakash.S.Bagga

This is not a message from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji


.If we consider this then the essence of
DHIYAN being refered in Gurbanee is defeated.Gurbanee does tell for focusing on some specific Image refered as AKAL MOORATi.

Prakash.S.Bagga

Sat Naam Waheguru

When we tune into our innerself this becomes a meditation.
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Example Looking at the sunrise or sunset and being lost in its beauty is meditation.

How does become thoughtless?
By practice and more practice.

Harry Hardeep finds his Meditation in Sewa this is great.

Initiations into spiritual arts like Kriya and Reiki help.
However choose the teacher wisely Do not take initiations from a teacher who has much baggage
as they would only pass this on to you.

Being initiated with a Guru mantra from a Guru who is pure
can open new highways in the Brain. Then the mantra you mentally recite startss cutting the chitter chatter in the brain and stillness comes in.
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Who is a Pure Guru (teacher)
In short he (or she) is one who have risen above Sins of Kam Krodh Lobh Moh and Hankar.

A pure Guru can be even your mother, one whose Aura is pure Divine love
so much so that in their prescence we find much stillness and peace.

Our blessings are with you

Amarjit

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LOL okay if bani isnt words what is it? also medition was invented by sanatan religions LOL. i means you cant be serious when you think our gurus invented it LOOOOOL. where do you think the main sybmdol of meditation came from?"aaaaaaaaauuuuummmmmm"

Luckysingh veer ji thanks for your post. Some thoughts in response to your first post.Veer one has to be careful in being too literal. I do believe some translations into English of the words like (ਸਿਮਰਨ ਧਿਆਨ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਜਪੁ) into meditation/chanting is a great mistake. Unfortunately far too many are lead into this. The truth is that as you dwell on or understand and live as through understanding Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, you will find yourself in a state of realization that is always aware. This state is not emptiness but contentment and a state of consonance with what you are surrounded with wherever you are.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji teaches you to be always aware and not be devoid. To be always aware of the creator and the creation. Emptiness cannot be described and it is a false goal to set as you will never know and will always be dis-satisfied. Instead see creator's creation and link with all that you can with. It may be an animal, a tree, a stream, nice sound, beauty, the look in someone's eyes, etc. Once you start seeing goodness or connectivity in all and everywhere you are one with the creator in realization as one ever will.

Live in ever increasing understanding of the creator and in consonance with all creation around.
Veer true meditation has been made by some to be an out of normal living experience. It really does not need to be so. If you carry out as described in consonance living, you are almost there. If you like quietness, be so. If your body enjoys yoga, do so. It could be spiritual or simply physical. But these cannot be used as goals in itself for some "WOW" moments but as part of living and no more special than any other fully aware activities and times. This is what I get out of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and all types of other rituals in themselves have been identified in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as to be just so, rituals with no long term redeeming value.
Your awareness increases, you see self as part of all that is around, you stop seeking you just become.
Sorry for me the underlined are basically fallacies and have little to no relationship to our Guru ji's teachings that I have come across so far. These are Babey/Shabey/Parcharik stuff to take control of your psyche and pocket. This kind of thought puts people in defensive mindset and open to maximum exploitation. Sikhi is practical and fully aware living 24/7.

Hope above is of consideration.

Thank you for your posts. You write very clearly and specifically.

Sat Sri Akal.

Kamala What we read is words ,but what the words contain is truth ,and that is what you should meditate on, if you can do it with love (without trying)then thats the way.

Meditate is not the correct translation of Simran.

I think it means to contemplate and focus on the very wisdom of whatever bani you are mindful of. It is very relaxing to remember God and His greatness.

There are no majic mystical encantation words in Sikhism.

Guru Himself is the Mantar.

Take the word mantar. It is two words put together. Man for mind and tar for transporting to a peaceful state.
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Take the word simar which is two words put together. Si means "he" ( God is main nahin tun sabh kich tera) and mar means "dead" the ego is killed. Think about it "Jab ham hoti tun nahen" When I am, You are not.
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Simar is the state of subduing the ego to keep a realistic glimpse of reality. This is accomplished through education of Guru Granth Sahib and applying the golden wisdom to our minds and accepting it and doing it.