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Old 01-Nov-2004, 15:47 PM
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Dear Khalsa Jee,

In my view, in this knowledge era, only those religions will survive which have rationality in what they preach and their followers are aware of this rationality. Beliefs will progressively fade away and rationality will take over.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/915-the-future-of-religion.html

Rational religions will be able to face the challenge thrown on them by the environmet of modern living.

Among such rational religions, those which are closer to Humanism, will have greater chance.

Khalsa Panth which is based on Sikhi has excellent chance to survive if we are able to communicate the rationalliy of Sikhi to Khaksas and beyond i.e. if we succeed in communication this aspect well to our fellow Khalsas and others interested in it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915

These are my considered views.

With love and respect for all.

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Old 01-Nov-2004, 22:05 PM
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In my view, in this knowledge era, only those religions will survive which have rationality in what they preach and their followers are aware of this rationality. Beliefs will progressively fade away and rationality will take over.

Rational religions will be able to face the challenge thrown on them by the environmet of modern living.

Among such rational religions, those which are closer to Humanism, will have greater chance.

Khalsa Panth which is based on Sikhi has excellent chance to survive if we are able to communicate the rationalliy of Sikhi to Khaksas and beyond i.e. if we succeed in communication this aspect well to our fellow Khalsas and others interested in it.
I am happy that Amarpal ji mentioned this.

I feel it more appropriate to convey the mission of this site i.e. www.sikhphilosophy.net (SPN forums) to make sikhs, non-sikhs aware of what sikhism is about through sikhi related and inter-faith discussions wherever possible. Lot of questioning has started within sikhism, as new generation sikhs are not getting sufficient guidance from their parents, and ultimately land up thinking sikhism or khalsa as something of 10th century - which it is NOT.

As Amarpal ji said - only those religions will survive which have rationality in what they preach and their followers are aware of this rationality. Beliefs will progressively fade away and rationality will take over. Considering this, it is extremely important that followers understand the rationality of things involved, otherwise it would just reduce to useless rituals, which sikhism is not about. However, due to human nature, we see lot of people in sikh appearance, who keep on giving wrong messages and drive away the seekers, as they become the first impression.

Also, this makes an important point that we start discussing about importance of Kakaars afresh. I will be creating threads about these soon. And people like S|kh, We need you more now, than at any other time, to play the roles which any outsiders will. This will make learnings at both sides in a better way.

Communication is very important, without any doubt. So let us do it.

Looking forward to learn from all of you.

Regards.
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When we say 'which religion will survive'?, it seems like we are talking in a very impersonal way as if it does not affect us as Seekers. It is NOT the survival of any particular Dogma but the quest for this never ending enhancement of the Self.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915

Any School of Thought that can help us become better from all aspects of life will not only survive but thrive and Sikhism is one of those schools which trains us to have a positive way of life sans dogma.

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Dear Amarpal ji

I am bit confuse after you used word rational in your post
As are my experiences in U.K with peoples around me if we start taking every thing rationally then i thinks god never comes into picture to start with .
as all the people around me basically are related to health industry are very rational in what ever they do but still manage to ignore even mention of god for days all together
Also as such as my observation western society has been very rational in all these years and they have done tremendous development due to the same reason but during the same time they never happen to discover the god' existence with their rationality more over now they are more away from it and have more reason that to are rational to deny its existance
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915
So what i think is rationality cant lead anyone toward god but if some how one accepts his (god) existence then his rationality can guide him through and here sikhism can come into picture and as i can think is that seed factor for the existence of god still lies with god himself and i think he bestows it on who so ever he like to

But This is what i can think of rationality and i could be wrong
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Dear Tejwant Jee,

I see that rationality will take over. It means that beliefs will disappear. Beliefs are views that we hold to be true, in fact they may or may not be true. Dogma is a set of beliefs laid down authoritatively. As rationality takes over beliefs disappear, Dogmas too will go away.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915

I hold that Khalsa Panth is not dogmatic as all it has can be rationally supported.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915
An example of it I will give in my next post addressed to drkhalsa Jee.

With love and respect for all.

Amarpal
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Old 02-Nov-2004, 11:48 AM
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Dear drkhalsa Jee,

From you post I learnt that you are Doctor, that is why drkhalsa.

True, in comming days spitiually inclinde people will not utter the name of God. We Khalsas have already stopped doing so; we say Waheguru; it is not the name of 'The Sat', in this word we are praising the ultimate teacher; read it now a feel what it means Wah-e- Guru. To me it means Guru - kee - Wah. Guru here for me is 'The Sat'.

In the paragraph above, 'The Sat' is a belief. I now bring it in the domain of understanding (not realisation as for that one needs Gurparsadi). The nearest that I conceptualise 'The Sat' is as 'Cosmic Intelligence'. It is this 'Cosmic Intelligence', which gave life to me; it is this 'Cosmic Intelligence' which is sustaining me;it is this 'Cosmic Intelligence' which is working within me (that is why I say 'The Sat' is in me) and is working every where in all living entity and is maintaining the cosmic system in order. It is this 'Cosmic Intelligence' which is doing every thing This 'Cosmic Intelligence' was never born and will never die, it is independent of time and is self existant. It is this 'Cosmic Intelligence' which have no enmity with any one and has no fear with any one.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=915

This 'Cosmic Intelligence' is true to all that is said in the 'Mool Mantra' which is given to us by our Guru Sahib who has realised 'The Sat', who knew every thing. This way I validate my conceptual understand with respect to Gurbani.

With this rational 'The Sat' is not a belief, it is an understanding which is still to be actualised. I have to strive and become worth of the grace of 'The Sat' and receive 'Gurparsadi'.

With this awareness I say that Khalsa Panth is not Dogmatic, it is a rational Panth.

We have to provide the rational for every aspect of Sikhi i.e. the teachings of our Guru Sahibs enshrined in Siri Guru Granth Sahib. Guru Sahibs have elaborated enough in Siri Guru Granth Sahib, we have to assimilate the teachings i.e. Sikhi and present it to all who are interested in it.

Spitirually inclinde individuals will feel 'The Sat' in then and all around them all the time. There is no need for Jaap for them.

We all are together in this journey.

With love and respect for all.

Amarpal
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SYncretism: sikhism is this i got nutin to say

sikhism is the mixture of all the good things in all religion plus more to make it better.
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the kesh are actually beneficial

but the others just kinda help u out if u know what i mean.

like i have a huge kara and it can be used a self defense thing u know

same with kirpan

comb is necessay for hair, when i went to india i bot the wooden comb (now its lost) and i remember i had it in my hair and whenever i wud get time i wud clean up my hair and wear a keskee or sumtin but now that i am back and i have no comb m y hair satys messed up and .. etc etc

kachehra hmm... this is a hard one they just look cool on nihangs
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SYncretism: sikhism is this i got nutin to say

sikhism is the mixture of all the good things in all religion plus more to make it better.
...which is?

Anyways, i believe sikhi will survive no matter how secularized our ppl get. There will always be ppl who serve the guru. Of course, we need to spread our religion and open doors to the masses like living guru's did.
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