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Old 06-Jul-2006, 15:41 PM
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I want to ask something from all of you.
Is it is right to make films on guru's life?
In guru's ji time anybody say wrong about guru's ji then guru's ji sikh got annoyed.Now in that films fake character of eg. Aurangjeb n other soldiers says guruji's ***** and much of just like things.And now how can guruji's sikh listen that word.
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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

Dear Jasmeet Kaur Ji

Interesting Issue !

Now it is kind of general understanding among sikhs that they dont want anybody to play the character of guru in a play, Film , So No film , serial about their life has been produced till now in which their character has been played by somebody . Just like RAMAYAN , MAHABHARAT Etc

Well I dont have the answer whether it should be allowed or not but still I know doing this will hurt people feelings and may create a scene .

But I have seen alternate method being applied many times while I was child and living in India . On Jhalandfar Doordarshan Channel their used to be plays in which the stries about gurus were told and played by character surrounding the particular events like for telling story of Two Younger Sahibzadas Martyrdom charaters like Mughal Soldier , Moti Mehara Ji , Gangu ,and his wife , all these character narates the story and actually you can get the basic point of the sakhi
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Similarly now Animation has been used for the same reason.


Would like to hear what others think about it.


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Old 06-Jul-2006, 22:28 PM
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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

Gurfateh

Unlike Islam and more like christianlty we can draw picture of Gurus but are not to worship them.

Then we can make aninmated flims with Gurus been shown.
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Anyway As Khalsa is told to be form of Guru so acting Guru by Sikhs can be a good thing but in India we know that Arun Govil became real like Lord Rama so it may became say if Kala Afghana Ji act like Guru then people may try yo worship him.So it is risky but on ly if we have storng Islamic influnce then only wornmg.
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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

waheguru ji ka khalsa wahegur ji ke fateh

I am sory to say but may i ask vijaydeep ji , what makes you point about KALA afghana ji like this in your reply.
again sorry but not so clear about your point of view.
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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

Thank you for reply my post!

But i also dont understand what you are trying to say n i ask you one question why are you putting JI's on Kala Afgana?
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Nobody has right to become the character of GURU'S JI, SAHEBJADE and MATA GUJRI JI.
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If we dont take important step to stop making n viewing films on guruji's life then some day will come when people make guruji's n saheed in reality character like hindu's god make fake character n people to perform to become gods on films n reality.

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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

Dear Jasmeet Kaur ji


Thanks for your reply

But I could not fully understand your statement . Can you elaborate further

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If we dont take important step to stop making n viewing films on guruji's life

oes any film like this exist already and and if NOT then what you are advising not to watch .




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Old 07-Jul-2006, 22:14 PM
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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

Gurfateh

Well respected Vipjas Ji,

For das who actualy behold Panth as Guru also and has sense of worship of for Gursikhs also.

So even ds may disagree to Bhai Sahib Randheeer Singh Ji on say Ragmala or meat issue and Das may disagree to Sirdar Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji on issue of Dasham Granth/Sant or AKj Mahapursh bashing, yet
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For das as they are Sikh and devoted and commited to thier cause with cler intentions so for Das they are form of Guru(Khalsa as form of Guru).Kindly do not take it as joke but realy das has great respect to Gursikhs who have attributes of Guru like sacrifisng slef esteem for the benefit of Panth.

Das bow to feet of Kala Afghana Sahib but das just wanted to say that enlighetened person like him if at all say act like Guru,people may start personal worship to himself ,while what das understod as per Gurmat even personal worship of Gurus is not OK.

But as Bro DRkhalsa talks about Turbned Hindus among us,as per thier hypocracy we can expect that they can misuse the name of S Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghan's name just for reasons,he spent all his life to fight with.Ds just used him to show irony and s he is the symbol of reform for the Panth for das,inspite of idelogical differnaces.But people can fail his cause is say we take some risk to say copy Hindus by intiaing Ramyana.
Forgive Ds again for misunderstadning,for Das Sirdar Sahib are symbol to strugle against Anti Gurmat things so no other name came to his mind when we had to talk about great reformer of present time.
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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

respected friends,
waheguruji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh,
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one more thing which i understands can have a bad effect if we depict guru ji in films, as there is no full proof sure sakhis of guru ji,s and all the events during the guru's time have reached us through our ancestors, but not sure about them. and there are so many things which we have heard leads us to karam kand, and people who will be making films or documentaries are not supposed to be always right i mean they can also make mistakes which can lead to confusions in sikh community. there are so many sakhis which are imaginations of people and this can not depict the true guru's. so this can effect the image of sikhism.
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' i hope i make sense.
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Re: Is it is right to make films on guru's ji life?

there must be a way to translate these important sakhi's for the universal market
at present we are holding a universal way of life restricting it to what one or two people may feel
what these one or two people may feel is not as important as getting this universal messages out
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films transcend time and space - helps get the message to people who normally would be exposed to this reality
it can't and shouldn't be held back by people's fears our guru is nirpau nirver - so where does these fear stem from
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if someone makes a story/film/documentary forgive them - and lets together do better next time

but lets not stop trying just in case we mess it up

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at present we are holding a universal way of life restricting it to what one or two people may feel
what these one or two people may feel is not as important as getting this universal messages out
Above comments are worth pondering on

thanks for that



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