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Old 03-Jun-2006, 03:31 AM
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I find that the behaviour in the gurdwara is jsut disgusting. If you were to go to a church, or mosque you would never see anything like what you see at the gurdwara. Elderly women are constanly gossiping and talking in the langar hallls and even the divan halls!
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People let their children run around, make noise and play. And when you yell at other peoples children their parents become easily offened. Ladies would rather look at and disscuss what other woman are wearing than talk about the daily vakkk or the meaning of the kirtan. After 300+ years this is what we've gotten toooo???


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Old 03-Jun-2006, 14:15 PM
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Re: Behaviour in The gurdwara

SAT SRI AKAL TO ALL,
first of all i appreciate the concern you have shown regarding the behaviour of sikh snagat in gurdwara's. and i am really with you. but if we recall what the true sikhism is than we should be able to find the solution to this problem.
first of all guru granth sahib ji teaches us the way of living life,this is the real living treasure for us. ( jiwan jhach da khazana) this guru of ours teaches us the basic things about life, about people around us, love , hatred , jealous, and many more things which cant be counted here. and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji teaches us about creating a world of selfless service through , self recoganition, self esteem, self expresion ,and emotional and social security.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8864
so the problem here is about the behaviour of people in sikh temple. but for vry obvious reasons this is we who can create the environment where we can teach otheres about the reason t come to gurdwara, we can ask ourselves( self realisation), than we can ask our parents our friends , our relatives , and other people about the motive to go to gurdawara, we cant blame the system for our own behaviour. we should be very helpful to gurdawar a managments to be able to provide a very discpline environment to real devotees. we should not feel hesitant to ask those women folks who go on discussing about , clothes , children,and other topics, and should divert their minds in discussing about gurbani, and and involving them into naam simran.
so dear this is we who can change the environment of gurdwara.
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bhul chulk maaf , and do tell em about my mistakes
always
vipjas.
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Old 04-Jun-2006, 00:59 AM
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Re: Behaviour in The gurdwara

respect,

are you upset because the gurdwara is a where people worship God? and we shouldnt be acting like that in God's presence? If that i the case consider this, God is everywhere.
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Re: Behaviour in The gurdwara

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respect,

are you upset because the gurdwara is a where people worship God? and we shouldnt be acting like that in God's presence? If that i the case consider this, God is everywhere.
but the gurdwara is "house ofthe guru" and we should not acting foolishly and we should leave our differences and gossip at the door, even better... not at all.

I often see it.. children running around in the parking lot, langar hall, and main hall, even older children... and yes there is alot of gossiping...

it would also help if there was some english services too... and perhaps you will see some activity in the temples...
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Old 04-Jun-2006, 05:22 AM
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Re: Behaviour in The gurdwara

No Versus ji I'm not mad because the gurdwara is the house of God, I'm mad because the gurdwara is the house of the guru
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Re: Behaviour in the Gurdwara

Gurfateh

Gurudwara means door to Guru,some people who are not liked by Guru to be united with the same return from the door so do not do service of Gurubar Akal,do not understand Sabad Guru or respect Guru Panth.

But to make Gurudwara unlike unruly pagan temple,decipline has to be manitained.But often Idiotic management people behvae as if farmer is at his field.
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It is more to do with yuonger generation to learn well mannerism.
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SAT SRI AKAL TO ALL,
first of all i appreciate the concern you have shown regarding the behaviour of sikh snagat in gurdwara's. and i am really with you. but if we recall what the true sikhism is than we should be able to find the solution to this problem.
first of all guru granth sahib ji teaches us the way of living life,this is the real living treasure for us. ( jiwan jhach da khazana) this guru of ours teaches us the basic things about life, about people around us, love , hatred , jealous, and many more things which cant be counted here. and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji teaches us about creating a world of selfless service through , self recoganition, self esteem, self expresion ,and emotional and social security.

so the problem here is about the behaviour of people in sikh temple. but for vry obvious reasons this is we who can create the environment where we can teach otheres about the reason t come to gurdwara, we can ask ourselves( self realisation), than we can ask our parents our friends , our relatives , and other people about the motive to go to gurdawara, we cant blame the system for our own behaviour. we should be very helpful to gurdawar a managments to be able to provide a very discpline environment to real devotees. we should not feel hesitant to ask those women folks who go on discussing about , clothes , children,and other topics, and should divert their minds in discussing about gurbani, and and involving them into naam simran.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8864
so dear this is we who can change the environment of gurdwara.
bhul chulk maaf , and do tell em about my mistakes
always
vipjas.

respected friends , i want to divert your thoughts to the above mentioned answer,
please understands the basic idea behind the question, and its remedies. this is not the issue the gurdwara is a house of god or not, the thing is gurdwara is a place where we people go to offer our prayers and discuss about the teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and learn the basic about our living.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8864
No doubt the god is omnipresent and no need to have place for god, but the thing is gurdwara are built for the community so that they can come and can learn from each other and from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
only we can change the atmosphere of gurdwara.
sorry if i hurt anybody's feeling .
bhul chuk maaf.
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I'm guessing that atleast you're the (only) enlightened entity in a gurudwara, then why are you not being meditating with God at that time? Why are you distracting yourself by these (innocent) children running around (who're forced to be there anyway)? Why are you listening to the gossips of these ladies, who come to the gurudwara to meet thier (only) friends?

You think people don't gossip in a Church or a mosque? You don't think people's mind wavers in these places? It's human nature! you want to be zombies and not be themselves.. then why be there? Most of the people I know in my gurudwara come for the food, the company and for letting people know that they come to the gurudwara.. again this goes with my "being accepted" theory. Most people just want to be accepted. that's it. The beliefs they have just revolve around this fact.
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I'm guessing that atleast you're the (only) enlightened entity in a gurudwara, then why are you not being meditating with God at that time? Why are you distracting yourself by these (innocent) children running around (who're forced to be there anyway)? Why are you listening to the gossips of these ladies, who come to the gurudwara to meet thier (only) friends?

You think people don't gossip in a Church or a mosque? You don't think people's mind wavers in these places? It's human nature! you want to be zombies and not be themselves.. then why be there? Most of the people I know in my gurudwara come for the food, the company and for letting people know that they come to the gurudwara.. again this goes with my "being accepted" theory. Most people just want to be accepted. that's it. The beliefs they have just revolve around this fact.




Respected Tantrix,

Totally agree with you, we must become examples for others. By merely condemning others actions, we cannot bring the change.

If a person is really concentrating on what is being read by Bhai Sahibs at Gurudwara Sahib, nothing can distract him/her.

Start with yourself:
Identify how to behave appropriately in a Gurdwara Sahib and understand why this is important, and then follow it.
Start discipline from yourself, and then involve your children, your family, and then other acquaintances. Nothing is impossible.
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