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06-05-2008, 11:50 PM
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| | ਵੇਦੁ ਪੜਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਨਹੀ ਆਇਆ ॥
वेदु पड़हि हरि रसु नही आइआ ॥
vėḏ paṛeh har ras nahī āiā.
The Pandits read the Vedas, but they do not obtain the Lord's essence. ਵਾਦੁ ਵਖਾਣਹਿ ਮੋਹੇ ਮਾਇਆ ॥
वादु वखाणहि मोहे माइआ ॥
vāḏ vakāṇeh mohė māiā.
Intoxicated with Maya, they argue and debate. ਅਗਿਆਨਮਤੀ ਸਦਾ ਅੰਧਿਆਰਾ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬੂਝਿ ਹਰਿ ਗਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੨॥
अगिआनमती सदा अंधिआरा गुरमुखि बूझि हरि गावणिआ ॥२॥
Agiānmaṯī saḏā anḏẖiārā gurmukẖ būjẖ har gāvaṇiā. ||2||
The foolish intellectuals are forever in spiritual darkness. The Gurmukhs understand, and sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord. ||2|| | 
06-05-2008, 11:55 PM
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| | Sadh Sangat Ji,
So we now know what we need to do daily from Sunday to Saturday.
All this is clearly spelt out in Post # 18 | 
07-05-2008, 02:04 AM
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| | thanks namjap ji,
However one of the Other Gursikh requested me to stop discussion about the spirtual aspects. i guess he`s also correct in his sense. Its not explaining but getting expereince about it. But yeah motivation always comes from gurbani.
thanks for bringin up tuks from gurbani
aprreciate that
stupidjassi Quote:
Originally Posted by namjap Let's bring together the various tuks on Dasam Dwar (Tenth Door) and then decide on it. Stupidjassi is doing a good thing in bringing this very important matter up again. Here's one tuk:- ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰੈ ਲਾਇ ਭਾਵਨੀ ਇਕਨਾ ਦਸਵਾ ਦੁਆਰੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ ॥ गुरदुआरै लाइ भावनी इकना दसवा दुआरु दिखाइआ ॥ Gurḏu*ārai lā*ė bẖāvnī iknā ḏasvā ḏu*ār ḏikẖā*i*ā. Through the Gurdwara, the Guru's Gate, some are blessed with loving faith, and the Tenth Door is revealed to them. Guru Amar Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok |
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07-05-2008, 03:42 AM
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| | stupidjassi ji
Just because another Gursikh tells you to stop discussing spirituality aspects of a topic DOES NOT MEAN that you have to go along with the suggestion. We are all independent thinkers on SPN.
SPN is about dialog and learning from different points of view. 100 percent agreement is not one of the forum rules.
No one died and left Gursikh 'x" in charge of the buffalo herd, as far as I can tell. And since we are not a herd, please continue with your excellent insights and observations. One reason why this thread is so interesting is that all the participants -- NamJap, Sikh80 ji, you, Vijaydeep ji, Amarpal ji, and i don't know who else, have been looking at the spiritual dimension and not going off on a game of Name that Bani.
I for one tend to look forward to reading what you have to say. __________________ ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe. | 
07-05-2008, 06:43 AM
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| | All jio
It is very personal experience, almost impossible to express it in words as per their limitations. It was hinted in Sikh80 ji's post too. The experience of all senses we do is very much clear, to have experience of "dasma dwar" cannot be experienced with these senses, obviously it comes with reaching to that state of mind in love with HIM. Like experience of walking on the Mar will be experienced by those who could do that ever.
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pk70 | 
07-05-2008, 07:07 PM
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| | hi aad0002
I agree with you also 
but the reason i realise that its nothing much to be in discussion. Its about getting the expereicnce. I also put importance to expereince. Discussion is good for motivation but experience is our goal right. Now we are at stage when we need more experience and less discussion.
But yeah i`ll continue participating in forums. and quest for the truth in Gurbani
thanks much for your reply anywyas
stupidjassi Quote:
Originally Posted by aad0002 stupidjassi ji
Just because another Gursikh tells you to stop discussing spirituality aspects of a topic DOES NOT MEAN that you have to go along with the suggestion. We are all independent thinkers on SPN.
SPN is about dialog and learning from different points of view. 100 percent agreement is not one of the forum rules.
No one died and left Gursikh 'x" in charge of the buffalo herd, as far as I can tell. And since we are not a herd, please continue with your excellent insights and observations. One reason why this thread is so interesting is that all the participants -- NamJap, Sikh80 ji, you, Vijaydeep ji, Amarpal ji, and i don't know who else, have been looking at the spiritual dimension and not going off on a game of Name that Bani.
I for one tend to look forward to reading what you have to say. |
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07-05-2008, 07:11 PM
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| | stupidjassi ji
Thanks for the lovely response. Sometimes we do talk too much. But no one should try to stop you from discussing things.
But now, here is one of the things that baffles me about threads like this one. If something is too personal to discuss, then why say anything at all. There are 2 things I never talk about here. One is my sadhana and the other is Khalistan. These are extremely deep issues so I just don't post anything about either topic.
If it is personal -- then I am silent from the start. __________________ ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe. | 
08-05-2008, 05:54 AM
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But now, here is one of the things that baffles me about threads like this one. If something is too personal to discuss, then why say anything at all. There are 2 things I never talk about here. One is my sadhana and the other is Khalistan. These are extremely deep issues so I just don't post anything about either topic. If it is personal -- then I am silent from the start. aad0002 ji
May be I didn't express myself as clearly as I understand it; so you do not need to avoid any discussion you feel to discuss. There are Guru Vaak in which their personal experience is expressed and you will note that while writing about that, words sound cripple ; however, it doesn't mean we should not talk about that or discuss about that. After reading all posts in this context, I found out, all are just hinting about the meaning of "dasm Duaar" but are not successful in explaining it in complete. Obviously such kind of spiritual experience can be expressed only by going through it. Like all of you, I also feel helpless to word that in correct way due to being very very inexperienced in this feild. Right answer can be found only through experience and looking at my state of mind, I am million miles away.
Please continue sharing it.
Please continue the thread. Lot of shabadas posted by namjap ji and Sikh 80 are so wonderful to understand it or to go close to understand it. If it(thread) was not, how would I be able to enjoy these Guru Shabadas?
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pk70 | 
08-05-2008, 06:34 AM
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| | pk 70 ji
I apologize if you thought I was referring to you. Not in the slightest. I still don't know who the Gursikh X was and probably should not know. You are speaking the truth and I agree with all that you say.
There have been those however who will go on and on about why we should not discuss this or that on principle. That is the thing that baffles me. __________________ ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe. | 
08-05-2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pk70 After reading all posts in this context, I found out, all are just hinting about the meaning of "dasm Duaar" but are not successful in explaining it in complete. Obviously such kind of spiritual experience can be expressed only by going through it. Like all of you, I also feel helpless to word that in correct way due to being very very inexperienced in this feild. Right answer can be found only through experience and looking at my state of mind, I am million miles away.
Please continue sharing it.
Please continue the thread. Lot of shabadas posted by namjap ji and Sikh 80 are so wonderful to understand it or to go close to understand it. If it(thread) was not, how would I be able to enjoy these Guru Shabadas? | ਸਿਵ ਕੀ ਪੁਰੀ ਬਸੈ ਬੁਧਿ ਸਾਰੁ ॥
सिव की पुरी बसै बुधि सारु ॥
Siv kī purī basai buḏẖ sār.
In the City of God, sublime understanding prevails. | |
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