Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam

FiveLovedOnes · #71 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2007, 10:22 AM

A true sikh doesnot disobey n differnetiate between his sikh fellowmates by adding caste or other differences.Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj eliminated caste system n other baseless issues to unite all people into one form called Sikhs or Khalsa.If one god created all how can be there a jatt sikh n a khatri sikh.......
U r disobeying Guru by adding Cheema to ur Name.Rest is all good about U.Ur love for Guru n Guru's Shabad is immense but true love for Guru can only be expressed by obeying his orders.No intention to hurt U but to make U realise that U r still holding a black spot(Caste) on your clothes(soul).

simpy · #72 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2007, 16:55 PM

Endless thanks for spotting and washing the black spot from my screen name, FiveLovedOne Ji. thanks a lot endlessly.

keep it up.
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FYI me neech is not hurt, as i have placed whatever given in Guru Ji's Charan Kanwal, Guru Ji is the Ultimate Teacher, Provider, Protector and the Healer, what me neech has to worry. Once again, thanks endlessly ..........
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humbly asking for everybody's forgiveness

MKAUR1981 · #73 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2007, 17:57 PM

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A true sikh doesnot disobey n differnetiate between his sikh fellowmates by adding caste or other differences.Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj eliminated caste system n other baseless issues to unite all people into one form called Sikhs or Khalsa.If one god created all how can be there a jatt sikh n a khatri sikh.......
U r disobeying Guru by adding Cheema to ur Name.Rest is all good about U.Ur love for Guru n Guru's Shabad is immense but true love for Guru can only be expressed by obeying his orders.No intention to hurt U but to make U realise that U r still holding a black spot(Caste) on your clothes(soul).

How old are you? As a Sikh we are all here to learn but you come across with your holier-than-thou attitude and insult others….IS THIS AN EXAMPLE OF A TRUE SIKH????? A true Sikh see's God in all and you showed that you do not possess that quality as a Sikh.

“Your Light is the light in all beings, O Creator. All Your Expanse are True” (Guru Granth Sahib, 1314).

“All beings and creatures are His; He belongs to all” (Guru Granth Sahib, 425).

For all you and I know it's a username, why get so worked up on it. Are you here on this site to pin point others names or to learn and share your knowledge on Sikhism?

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This is Sikhi site n no non-sikhi stuff is allowed here.

I agree this is a Sikh site but if non-Sikhs want to participate I don't see a problem with that. We live in a multi-cultural society and we should be tolerant of others regardless of colour, caste, creed or RELIGION or gender for that matter. However I agree to stop any post that are Anti-Sikh.

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Non-religious people don't understand polite words n cool approach.They understand only one language i.e. sword language,battles n nothing more.

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I still don't understand why sikhs r so polite towards evils even today even when we r facing heavy losses from them.
Even Guru gobind Singh picked weapons when all means failed.Sikhs must prepare themselves for everything.

"When all other means have failed, It is then righteous to take the sword in the hand." (Zafarnama)
How is stereotyping all Muslims going to help. Firstly we need to strengthen our community before getting ready for war. If we are weak ourselves in our religion what exactly we will be fighting for?

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Just look at this girl who poses herself as gurusikhni n supporting islam by citing lines from Gurubani.Here Allah refer to Waheguru.

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Answer is so simple n she brought out wrong meaning out of it.So simple is for the sikh girls to slip to favor Islam by one wrong intrepretation n even if thousands of examples of great sikhs n Gurus n their sacrifices r presented before them they will still not favor sikhs.My goodness.Peak of everything.

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I am Just looking for one sikh girl in this whole site who talks pro-sikhi n anti-evils whatever religion they belong to but not sikh.Mind it.The Ego of this girl is at the peak.They read little Gurubani n start critizing other reformers.Peak of foolishness can be found among sikh girls n nowhere

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So your sexist as well as racist. Again not a quality that should be found in a Sikh....

How am I favouring Islam? Let me tell you in the Guru Granth Sahib there are 292 hymns by Kabir (Muslim), 4 hymns and 130 couplet of Sheikh Farid, 41 hymns by Ravidas, and a few couplets by Baba Mardana a muslim. I would be favouring Islam if I quoted from the Quran. I may not be as learned in Sikhism as others in this forum, but you have missed a very important part of the Guru Granth Sahib.

IK ON KAR - God is one.

So lets stop this discriminating against Muslims, wayward Sikh girls, and surnames.

And please FiveLovedOnes…..you've been given a brain, use it as your checkpoint before you write things.

FiveLovedOnes · #74 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2007, 18:51 PM

I think U girls sit at home whole day without any exercise n don't properly read n understand what people r writing here.When I say sikhi U read it as sikhs.What is this.
I strongly recommend U to go out n run 2 miles n spend 1 hr in Gym with super exercise n good blood flow all over ur body n ur brain.Then only U will understand n properly interpret what I have written n how U take it so negatively.
My job is not only to write about sikhi n related but also address the main problems that really r affecting our unity.One MAJOR PROBLEM of today is the caste.Read various odd cases arising due to caste system on the internet n other sources n then U will understand how serious is the problem of caste system among sikhs.What if I make one realise that this is something one is missing in oneself n one needs to correct this.Why take things always negatively.U pin-point my weaknesses n I will appreciate ur efforts n never go negative.I love people to let me know where n what r my weaknesses.
Just now U said I am a sexist.Ok I will work on that too.Hope to remove this bad spot from my soul-cloth or atleast minimize it so that it is not visible to outside.Thanks for ur comments thou.
Anyway we r not here to use terms like this.Rascist is another gold-medal that has been presented to me by U.Thank U.will work on that too to remove it.
again one more gold-medal.I have no brain .isn't this is peak of craziness writing like this on sikhi site ignoring the forum rules.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724
anyway keep doing ur job n let me do mine.I have different approach towards dealing with evils.Sword-Style when all means fail.
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I am a for evils.BTW Enjoy n have fun writing n discussing sikhi.

Live in Chardi kala n positive thinking.

Sat Shri Akal
FiveLovedOnes

MKAUR1981 · #75 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2007, 19:24 PM

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I think U girls sit at home whole day without any exercise n don't properly read n understand what people r writing here

Making assumptions as usual!!!!

Read thru your previous post(s) and you will see why I said you are being sexist. You seem to have nothing positive to say about Sikh women. Yes there are some who let us down but then so do many young Sikh boys.

If you want to start a topic on caste and use of surname then do so but don't pick on individuals on this forum. We are all here to share our knowledege and learn about Sikhi.

BTW on a lighter note FiveLovedOne......are you a salesperson for a gym....I've lost count the amount of time you've told others to go to the gym

FiveLovedOnes · #76 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2007, 22:17 PM

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Making assumptions as usual!!!!

Read thru your previous post(s) and you will see why I said you are being sexist. You seem to have nothing positive to say about Sikh women. Yes there are some who let us down but then so do many young Sikh boys.

If you want to start a topic on caste and use of surname then do so but don't pick on individuals on this forum. We are all here to share our knowledege and learn about Sikhi.

BTW on a lighter note FiveLovedOne......are you a salesperson for a gym....I've lost count the amount of time you've told others to go to the gym

I am not in favor of a girl who treats herself as gursikni (u cannot be one) but favors Sex before marriage.here is what u wrote in one of ur posts.
"However I would like to ask others why people having sex before marriage is wrong IF both of you love each other"

So this is what U r teaching to sikh youths n young girls thru this religious web-site.It is a great shame on U that people like u become encouragement for doing wrong things to our new young generation.If u have done this then keep it a secret .why r u exposing it to others- younger generation on the line.Our Sikhs have created a way of life n marriage is one of the most beautiful gift given to us by Guru Ramdas Ji himself n full respect n following is important for all of us n who r u to tell the younger generation that Sex is ok before marriage.isn't this really crazy.
U see others the way U r.When u wrote sexist to me I was really stunned.My god what is this.Who can write like this to others on a sacred sikhi site.Only a girl like U who is propagating slogan of having sex n fun before marriage.Come on.
First of all understand ur culture n traditions.In England too sikhi is still the same n our cultures n traditions r still the same whether weak follow or not.But weak people r easily subdued by ur own evils n then start hunting for sex at the name of love.They r more influenced by bollywood than sikh culture n traditions- for sure.
Madam sikhi is about following n self control.Noone shouldnot talk like that about having sex before marriage on this sikhi site.That's why i am so against those sikh girls who have totally spoiled the very definition of sikhism n sikhi.

People r right if any girlis unable to cannot control herself get married n enjoy.What is wrong in their saying n advises.
Now look at ur post comments-What a loser talk."I know many of u will say 'go n get married' but sometimes things do happen".Come on give me a break now.

First of all understand the meaning of marriage n start guiding young people around Now after hearing ur truth what u r expecting from me.Talk nice about sikh women like u.

If u treat urself as gursikhni u shouldnot raise such topics on such holy sites.
I see a lot of gursiknis everyday here in US.I pay them due respect from heart for keeping sikhi on the proud.
UK sikhs boys n girls r lost than any other part of this world.More reforms r needed to overcome this.If steps r not taken now n soon we will be in heavy loss.

I am only proud of those girls who maintain their traditions n Guru's ways till their last breath.proud of great gursikhnis who preserve sikhi with them n pass it to their coming generation.Sikhi florish becoz of gursikhs n gursiknis.

MKAUR1981 · #77 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2007, 22:37 PM

Yes I asked that question, but that does not mean I am a loose character. I asked it in the sense that it is ok to have sex with you husband on the first night and you do not even know them. If you have an opinion about sex before marriage reply to me in that topic and answer my question. DON'T you dare try to label me as a loose woman.

FiveLovedOne I haven't got time to waste on immature male chauvinist pigs like you who think they are above everyone and everything. Anyone can be a shere behind the safety of a computer.
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And finally I seriously doubt you are a Sikh. You either belong to some weird cult or need to be taken away by men in white coats.

FiveLovedOnes · #78 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2007, 02:17 AM

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Yes I asked that question, but that does not mean I am a loose character. I asked it in the sense that it is ok to have sex with you husband on the first night and you do not even know them.That's we have arranged marriages.Everyone knows that in many cases both men n women don't know anything about one another.This has happened with our ancestors for generations n they have never raised any question about strangerness of their partner.Now my question is why girls of this modern generation who r more educated n have more facitities of learning sikhi than in the past always feel insecure even despite of arranged marriages which involve two families n even beyond.Simple answer.they don't show any interest in learning sikhi,sikh cultures n traditions,Guru teachings n practically applying them in real life,love for sikhi n Guru 's feet.Always ready for revolting against sikhi n going against parents n elders wishes asking for more freedom to get involved in bad stuff(U ask ur parents for freedom to do Good works related to sikhi n they will never stop U for that-I am sure about that),not attending classes n seminars on sikhisms n poor learning n interests for sikhism n Gurubani n lot more.They r from day one more involved in dirty stuff like bollywood,watching dirty programs on TV against their parents will n advises,looking for more freedom to go on bad paths n never seeking help from Gurubani n elders to clear their mind darkness,never learning the beauty of marriage n its beauty n beyond,understanding the role of Guru 's love in married life.all these lacking finally brings all confusion n doubts.lacking all these is what made u feel insecure with ur own husband for first night......For ages this system has been continued n is still working n has always brought great impact on the society in a postive way.Results were always astonishingly positive of this arranged marriage with complete understanding of its true meaning n beauty.Now-a-days arranged marriages r coming to a failure becoz both boys n girls r not ready to learn the beauty n seriousness of this relationship n immense hapiness it brings to both.Girls want fun n want their men to be their dogs.They try to force their preferences over their husbands.So how this kind of attitude can make a relationship a success.Both men n women think that Sex is the ultimate destination of marriage(All wrong).Marriage relationship is beyond that n true relationship should end up both of the couples at the feet of the Lord.Only then relationships florish n endless hapiness shower upon them.

That 's why Gurubani says:

"Anand kare Nar naari Gur Purey Kirpa Thari"

means both men n women(guru talks about married couples at the same time) who remain immersed in the nectar Bani they only enjoy the endless blessings n joy of Guru's love.Married couples enjoy the beauty of married life only thru Guru's nectar bani.

Anything outside this brings sorrow n distress n failed relationships.

If U could understand the true meaning of this statement of Guru All ur doubts will vanish n U will never ask foolish questions like this.That's why I constant stress on my friends to seek the shelter n help from Guru.Guru solves all problems n darkness spread over one's mind.I strongly recommend U the same.Also wake up very early n meditate as it brings many blessings of Guru n good health n good fresh mind for whole day long.Exercise as Guru Gobind Singh Ji strongly recommended giving sikhs festival of holamala as a reminder to sikhs that exercise n always ready for battles should be an ultimate part of a sikh's lifestyle.
Don't call me a sales person of gym equipments. I guide people is all from Gurubani n guru's words n Guru's ways.Mind it.I never talk of my own.I apply Guru's words on myself first n find out the immense blessings hidden behind it n then I start recommending or guiding my sikh friends out there.In olden days sikhs exercise with weapons n horse games.Now we have Gym,Sword Games n other games n sports for exercise.So what is wrong about talking about Gym to many friends.Today exercising in Gym bring immense exercise in very less time in this busy time-schedules of sikhs of today.Whole day one feels vigor n chardi kala.

If today U girls have found internet and parents n sikhi provides u more freedom that doesn't mean that U will sit on sikhi sites n discuss sex topics.What the hell is this. Cannot U answer these common sense question with ur own intelligence n consciousness.We r at sikhi site to discuss about Sikhi,Guru n his nectar Bani,great teachings of Gurus,n helping our young sikh people to join sikhi more strongly n overcoming any ambuities about sikhi n sikhi way of living n other similar related sikhi topics.But U lost people always take up some stupid elements in between n start misguiding youth particularly.Tell me in UK how many times sikh girls gather together n talk about Gurus,Gurbani n sikhi related matters with each other.I think never.look at Surinder Kaur cheema how beautifully she is siting lines from gurubani to clear our doubts n helping lot others.I offended her only on her caste in her name which of course is non-sikhi aspect n becoming a nuisance to our sikh society.Look everyone is divided.Jatts have their own gurudwaras n ramgarias have their own.Can't to think of the seriousness of this problem n its impact on us n future generations to come.
Don't tell me that I am not a sikh.I am katar sikh n pakaa sikh. mind it.Never leave my mind on loose even in this country(USA) where dirt is so wide spread.Finally Guru has given his nectar Shabad to protect us from all dirt n evils of this society.In your country both men n women set their minds loose n start eating dirt of the world around U.

If you have an opinion about sex before marriage reply to me in that topic and answer my question. DON'T you dare try to label me as a loose woman.Don't even dare to have any discussion with me on having sex before marriage or discussing amiguities of having sex first night with ur Husband who accepted u before his Guru n both agreed before Guru granth Sahib Ji to be one forever. Don't talk like a bollywood sick ducks.

FiveLovedOne I haven't got time to waste on immature male chauvinist pigs like you who think they are above everyone and everything. Anyone can be a shere (I am a shere behind n in front of anyone-see I add SINGH to my name n I am a lion at deeds too.Guru's Sikh Lion)behind the safety of a computer.

Also Correction needed.It should be FivelovedOneS n not FiveLovedOne.they were 5 in no.

I don't consider myself superior over others but at the same time cannot remain quite when UK girls like u talk sex related stuff on sikhi sites.Have any questions or ambiguities about ur evils answer urself with ur own conciousness or seek the help of Gurubani.It has solution to all your doubts n problems.
Also never ever degrade the saints of Lord or his Gurusikhs(although I am not yet but trying hard for that n girls like u start throwing dirt on guru's sikhs too).

And finally I seriously doubt you are a Sikh.I don't know what U mean by that.unable to hear the truth so let him be declared as non-sikh guy.great job Kuriey. keep it up.I don't how many more u will delare as non-sikhs.Anyway I get up at 2:00 o'clock everyday without fail.It is the time when Golden temple doors open for Guru's Sangat.True amrit vela as per sikhs religious tradition.

You either belong to some weird cult (Come on give me a break now).Now u r trying to show urself as the only one sikh santnee here.Ego is pouring out from every point of urs.If after so many posting if U r unable to recognise who I am then U cannot understand anybody.U cannot learn sikhi from this site then.If have doubts I can send u my photo/s at ur email address to overcome ur ambiguity. or need to be taken away by men in white coats.

Sat Shri Akal.Casteless Sikh from USA.

FiveLovedOnes · #79 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2007, 02:54 AM

I totally agree with u my friend.study has shown that 85% of girls want dirty boys while the rest go for good decent boys.N good news is that out of 85% nearly 50% get their divorce n start hunting for new one.This time a decent one.what a foolishness.Hope God will give these girls some intelligence.They lack it very badly.
I get many loose girls from other communities but I always say no to them.Please excuse me.Don't need U.I am a pakka Guru ka Sikh.patience pays n impatience spoils all.

Even then i will go for a good sikh girl becoz i am not like those bad sikh girls out there.I know what Gurus r,What Guru's teachings mean in our life, n what is beauty of sikhi is.what bad girls see is just an illusion of mind n finally like a loser in the end n having spoiled their marriage life few times they learn their lesson.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724
If U don't find any good sikh kuri Go for outsider.Go for Muslim girl.They do become good sikh girls n love sikhi more than our own sikh girls.Our girls simply talk loud about sikhi but inside they r all hollow n sick.Although I must not recommend u this as first option but last resort.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724

But still there is hope that one find good sikh girls attached with Guru's neactar Bani n so don't give up.

"Mandi kami Nanaka Jad Kad Manda Hoye"

Those who stay away from guru n don't follow Guru's paths always suffer here n in his paradise.they will spoil their married life n finally left with repentence n nothing more.

Praises to gursikhnis who donot give up sikhi.My humble salute to them.

So cheers my friend.
Chardi kala.

ISDhillon · #80 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2007, 03:09 AM

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