Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam

luv4u · #51 (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2007, 21:06 PM

An amritdhari girl marries a Muslim
YouTube - Amritdhaari Girl Converts To Islam?
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kiran_kiran · #52 (**permalink**) 07-Jun-2007, 01:32 AM

thanks sikhpreet for replying so it means we both agree on the point that marrying outside ones own religion is a compromise which i have been writting from beggining ,i understand it was not against me or any one as i in my first post also mentioned religion is something one must feel from inside u can not just change ones religion ,i was agreeing with u all from the start even if u had had written about muslim men ,i know what u mean but still let me add there are 3 followers in islam wahabi, sunni and shia ,wahabi,s(the taliban sort) are not only trying to do that to ur girls but also with sunni and shia but we can,t blame them coz it,s our girls who are not religious enough to keep their feet on ground,but some times we also see ppl converting to another religion when they feel more relaxed just like u see christian,s converting to sikhi

sikhpreet · #53 (**permalink**) 07-Jun-2007, 10:19 AM

Yes agree. I think we are diverting from the original topic to b discussed here. Well onething is you and I agree upon something. Only problem is some girls have really spoiled their lives and their family lives just by stepping outside there culture. I have seen a case, someone I know.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/5724-call-muslims-seduce-sikh-girls-into.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724

And nothing against Christians who convert themselves as sikh. No one ever told them to convert them to sikhs or no one ever forced them. Sikh one can be just by staying in their own culture too. As long as you follow one gods voice.

Sarbat Ka bhala ( no one is *****) God created everyone wish good for everyone.

jugdeep · #54 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2007, 02:25 AM

salam, i was a sikh and i revert to islam because islam is the true religion of God, and the muslims people what they want is just to help you all. the teachings of islam are very good because the koran is the word of God, if you have a doubt so read the Koran. may God guide you all. incha Allah

ISDhillon · #55 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2007, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jugdeep

salam, i was a sikh and i revert to islam because islam is the true religion of God, and the muslims people what they want is just to help you all. the teachings of islam are very good because the koran is the word of God, if you have a doubt so read the Koran. may God guide you all. incha Allah

Have a nice life

Now I would like to ask the moderators to not advertise links on the sikhphilosophy website there is one link intended to help people convert to islam qhuite ironic of us advertising islam on a sikh website, does sikhphilosophy get donations for providing links to such sites?

kds1980 · #56 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2007, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jugdeep

salam, i was a sikh and i revert to islam because islam is the true religion of God, and the muslims people what they want is just to help you all. the teachings of islam are very good because the koran is the word of God, if you have a doubt so read the Koran. may God guide you all. incha Allah

please enlighten us how islam is the true religion of god.

FiveLovedOnes · #57 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2007, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by drkhalsa

Muslim Extremists Target Students

Sunday 9th October, 2005

Fauja Singh - Panthic Weekly Staff

Ruth Kelly, British Education Secretary UK (KP)

A few weeks ago the British Education Secretary Ruth Kelly said that British universities have been told to spy on student activists to prevent the spread of Islamist extremism and terror.
The Education Secretary said that Vice-Chancellors had a duty to inform the police where they believed that students or staff were breaking the law or committing ''possible criminal acts''.
Freedom of speech and thought on campus did not extend to tolerance of unacceptable behaviour, she told the Annual Conference of Universities UK, the body representing vice-chancellors and principals, in London.
''Following the London bomb attacks in July, we are all having to re-examine certain policies. One is not sure how to respond to those misusing the freedom of our society to promote terrorism and violence. Freedom of speech or expression is one of the most fundamental rights that individuals enjoy. And higher education is an amalgamation of those values.'' Ms. Kelly continued, ‘’However, freedom of speech does not mean tolerance of unacceptable behaviour. I believe that higher education institutions need to identify and confront unacceptable behaviour on their premises and within their communities.'’
Universities need to be alert to the activities of student groups and should be unafraid to set their own boundaries about what was acceptable, using the law as support. ''That means informing the police where criminal offences are being perpetrated or where there may be concerns about possible criminal acts,'' Ms Kelly said.
Universities and colleges have a duty to support and look after the moderate majority as they study, to ensure that those students are not harassed, intimidated or pressured, she added.
However university leaders expressed concern at being asked to ''police'' their students but said that they accepted that the terrorist threat could not be ignored. Drummond Bone, the president of UK, said that everyone wanted to make sure that students were not intimidated. He said that universities were revising their advice on extremism and security in the light of the July attacks.
''I don't think any university feels entirely happy about having a policing role over its own members. We are in a difficult situation,'' he said. A dossier prepared by Whitehall officials warned British Prime Minister Tony Blair about a network of ''extremist recruiters'' circulating on campuses, directed at students and people with ''technical and professional'' qualifications. It said, ''Students and young professionals from good backgrounds have also become involved in extremist politics and even terrorism.'' Last month Mr Blair pledged to outlaw the extremist groups Al-Muhajiroun and Hizb ut-Tahrir as part of his response to the London bombings. Al Muhajiroun's founder, the radical cleric Omar Bakri Mohammad, was banned from Britain last month while on holiday in Lebanon. The National Union of Students has already banned both groups from its campus unions, accusing Hizb ut-Tahrir of ''supporting terrorism''. But the Muslim youth organisation has been accused of continuing its recruitment activities under a series of 'front' names. The Federation of Student Islamic Societies has warned that Hizb ut-Tahrir would target ''vulnerable'' students when universities re-opened this month.
A report by the Social Affairs Unit, a right-wing think tank, has warned that some British universities ''may have become, and may still be, safe havens for terrorist ideas and recruits.'' The report by Professor Anthony Glees and Chris Pope, both at Brunel University, named 24 universities ''where extremist and/or terror groups have been detected''.
Islamic societies and Muslim student organisations in universities and colleges have in the past targeted Sikh students in pursuit of converting Sikh girls to Islam. A decade ago the British Organisation of Sikh Students worked with the NUS to ban Islamic fundamentalists from UK university campuses. However, the new news of Muslim extremists infiltrating student organisations and societies in university and college is worrying for the Sikh community.
Sikh Societies have been talking about what they have observed of tactics of Islamic Societies at “fresher fair” approaching people and bombarding with questions and how only Islam is true and everyone else is damned to hell.
With the beginning of the new academic year the ‘fundamentalist Muslims’ issue has come to light once again in universities, with fundamentalist preying upon ignorant Sikhs who know little or nothing about the Sikh faith. Sikh students are bombarded with questions upon questions about Sikhi which is followed up by distorted accounts of Sikh religion.

Other tactics have also been reported in past and Sikh student organisations have received information of numerous accounts of Islamic organisations paying £10,000 plus to Muslims who will convert Sikhs. A notions has been embedded in to Muslims that converting a Sikh into Islam will give there whole family a straight ticket to heaven. On top of the monetarily and afterlife incentive Muslims who have converted someone into there faith seem to be looked highly upon but certain members of community as for fulfilling “there duty.” Numerous methods are being used to convert people from deceiving female students, seducing them and making them pregnant in order to convert them.
Sikh societies and Sikh student organisation should be vigilant of this subtle and direct extreme missionary preaching by Islamic organisations and as a community we should address the issue of many Sikh youngsters being ignorant of the Sikh faith and therefore, vulnerable to dangerous Muslim radicals.

A few weeks ago the British Education Secretary Ruth Kelly said that British universities have been told to spy on student activists to prevent the spread of Islamist extremism and terror. The Education Secretary said that Vice-Chancellors had a duty to inform the police where they believed that students or staff were breaking the law or committing ''possible criminal acts''.

******.They spread hatredness among all n have poor tolerance for other religions n above all they r involved in evil practices of subdueing girls n forcibly converting them into Islam.****Their prophet was not a prophet at all but a common sufi saint who treated himself as prophet.He possessed incomplete knowledge of God,his creation n declared his ego by saying that he was the last prophet of this planet.He didn't knew at all that many more were to come in future.Ten Prophets of Sikhs came n spread message of equality,brotherhood n immense tolerance towards others.What did mohamaad did?.He simply spread hatredness towards others.He never listen to God n his wishes but added his own a lot.He talked of few worlds in this universe while Nanak said that there r endless earths in this universe.So incomplete knowledge sufi Mahamaad misled his people by giving them incomplete knowledge.

MKAUR1981 · #58 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2007, 18:49 PM

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salam, i was a sikh and i revert to islam because islam is the true religion of God, and the muslims people what they want is just to help you all. the teachings of islam are very good because the koran is the word of God, if you have a doubt so read the Koran. may God guide you all. incha Allah

Why do Muslim converts call themselves revert. Are you suggesting we were all born as Muslim at birth?

And how exactly are Muslims helping us? By preying on Sikh girls and converting them?

FiveLovedOnes · #59 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2007, 19:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

please enlighten us how islam is the true religion of god.

I think U r one of the many lost sikhs but U have crossed the boundry.U think Koran can provide u better teachings than Guru Granth Sahibji then go ahead.Noone has reached anywhere by following koran n mohamaad teachings.Mohamaad is only misleading millions of muslims around n only true way of understanding God n his creation n how he can be achieved is thru Guru Granth Sahib n Nectar Shabad Guru.Those who cannot understand Guru cannot understand anything n their whole human birth will go waste.Believe me whoever u r.There is no true n complete Guru in this age of darkness than Guru Granth Sahib ji.U have been badly mislead by seducers(muslims) n without understanding Guru U got in a wrong trap.
If U don't get ur answers thru Guru Granth Sahib Ji then I will myself recommend U to leave Sikhi n join any other.But i know this will never happen.Guru is complete n has joined millions with God in all ages.Whoever U r n whatever u have lost by leaving sikhi U have done a blunder mistake by leaving Guru.Do U think by God will accept U by leaving one prophet n taking another.Never!.For Sure.
For ages muslims have lived in darkness n thru this darkness they r trying to foll people around by portraying their religion n religious teachings the best n now they have joined U as another Ego-man who will keep saying that Islam is the best.They will involve U in betraying innocent people n selling girls in prostitution market after subduing them by false love-traps.This is the biggest sin one can perform n in court of God one will never go unpunished for millions of years-Remember.In God's court there is always justice n no sinner can escape unpunished.Now U too have joined the team of wrong doers n bad people.Choice is urs.Muslims bads ways n bad deeds have already made them ugly in the whole world n now U by saying that Islam is better over sikhism U have lost whatever U got.Ur whole human birth will go waste n finally again after millions of births U will have to come back to sikh religion to go to God back.No other way.
So why delay why not return back to sikhi which is the best religion in the world.
Understand Sikhi first n understand what Guru n Guru's shabad is n what Guru says thru his Shabad n then only U will appreciate the beauty of Sikhi.
Nothing is more beautiful than Guru's Nectar Shabad in this world my friend.Don't be a fool wandering in darkness n in incomplete religious teachings of Islam.The people who believe in conversion of people don't belong to god at all becoz all religions r his n so switching between is a foolishness.God wants one to belong to the religion he himself places U n One has to stick to it whole life n nothing is better than Sikhism.Only Sikhism alone talks brotherhood of all,respect,tolerance towards others,sharing,feeding the poor n needy,fighting back the evil forces of this world,Love for god n his creation,reaching out to help all needy around the world,all good virtues a man should possess,equal respect n status for both genders in all areas(do islam do-NO),helping n fighting back n sacrificing for people of other religions in an event of fighting back the evils from other religions n areas,n millions more.All these come thru Guru's nectar Shabad endorsed in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

I think U should badly Explore sikhi first n U will get all ur answers.In Sikhism help for any topic is available in abundance.U left this Ocean without knowing how many Gems it holds in its heart.

Anyway good luck for ur life journey.Hope U will not remain lost for long.

MKAUR1981 · #60 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2007, 21:03 PM

WJKK WJKF

Now hang on a minute!!!!!

I don't think KDS1980 meant that Islam is the true religion, he was asking a question to Jugdeep as he/she feels that Islam is the true word of God. KDS1980 is giving the chance for Jugdeep to elaborate on why he/she feels that way. Whats wrong in that?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724

May be you are one of the lost Sikhs as you seem to have a serious attitude problem attatcking others without even realising what is really being asked.

And what about your post about Muslims die and being blown up. Isn't that a Muslim-like attitude towards Kaffir? How does this make you any better than them. Where in the Guru Granth Sahib does it say to be hatred to towards Muslims. Where does it say to say to discriminate? Get a reality check! These are not qualilities of a Sikh. Seems like there is too much ego in you!!

First, Allah created the Light; then, by His Creative Power, He made all mortal beings. From the One Light, the entire universe welled up. So who is good, and who is bad? ||1|| (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang 1349)
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724

Please read other posts before jumping in head first and always ready to attack. Seems like all you've done since you've joined SPN. If you want to participate in a topic try to do so without attacking other and if you find that hard to do then take you're attitude somewhere else.