Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam

Chaan Pardesi · #**145** (**permalink**) 20-Oct-2010, 16:00 PM

This has been a big problem in UK.But the parents of the gilrs can do much to help themselves.Instead of picking upon the children and driving them away, love them and make them feel secure within the family and home.There is a lot that is messed up with parents, and such parents mess up their own daughters and sons and drive them away.Teach them to respect, and respect them and help them undertsand to respect their own bodies.

This was a fear we had and have.But we have tried to make the child more important than us, parents.Our daughter comes home every week from UNI.. in the middle as well as the weekends.We make her feel secure and loved and wanted and missed at home when she is at Uni.We encouraged her to join the Sikh society at the UNI;but she already explored that before I even broached the subject with her.

WE respond whenever she rings and needs anything.She knbows we are THERE for HER.She feels important and wanted.The other day, when we dropped her, mum says to her, well, You will have to cook this week as you have lot of work to finish you are not comming home midweek...., ..at once she said,...NO, you are going to bring the food mid week, mum,dad wont let me starve!!!He will be here.hehehee ...he will be here on wednesday. ..
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Let the child know you care.You are THERE.It is parents who find excuses to work and party and go to fuctions and do not put their children first, find the child drifts away.This where then problems begin as they then find comfort in the company of others.

Without us asking her, she has stated that she is thinking of taking amrit.

Admittedly, times ahead hold no promise, but with with the will of Guru Ji and his strength, keep the child close and make them waanted, half the problems will not arise.Yes, our child is only at the most 1 hours drive away ...and we can respond fast ...and distances can make things hard, but try to love that child with warmth and sensitivity and sincerity and practical and down to earth.. ,...they will make you parents proud.
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The rest is the will of Guru Ji in whom one needs to have great but simple faith.

Parma · #**146** (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2011, 06:09 AM

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Gyani Jarnail Singh · #**147** (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2011, 07:32 AM

Today at TESCO STORE, I passed by a Large POSTER AD showing a mini-skirted, almost bare chested voluptious CHINESE GIRL.....advertising for a Stall in TESCO that sells BURQAS.HIJABS and all that paraphernilia....run by a couple of Iranian Ayatollah types !! My wife and kids laughed out loud and said....Hey thats wrong...the AD to sell Hijabs/burqas..should be a potato sack type with just the tiny bit of EYES showing through a MESH....this is Grossly unfair advertising !! Ha ha The Iranian store owner came out to see us laughing...and shrugged his shoulders when we pointed to the ADVERTISEMENT and his wares !!
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My son remarked..Dad that would be like a Dastaar-Turban shop using Shah Rukh Khan as a model...not only in his usual short hair but also smoking and with a beer can in his hand !!

Aman Singh · #**148** (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2011, 08:38 AM

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Hello I want to delete my post on this thread but this site wont let me do it! I have sent messages were it says contact us but no one has given a reply back to me could you please remove me from this thread please. I dont not mean I want to be removed from this site just removed from this discussion please, Thanks

Gurfateh Parma ji,

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Navjeet Singh Bajwa · #**149** (**permalink**) 02-Oct-2011, 13:55 PM

this is a big problem faced by our nation abroad, especially in UK. Radical muslim orgs are using all their resources to convert all the " Infidels" . Muslim boys always look for a white/non-muslim girl with the intentions of converting her to Islam at heart.
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Politically correct policies will ruin UK .

Spades · #**150** (**permalink**) 03-Oct-2011, 03:10 AM

I never quite understood the drive of some to convert others into their religion by hook or crook. Yes it will add another number towards the ranks of that religion but it would be a hollow number that has no real meaning.

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For example:

Let's say that Person A forces Person B to convert to Scientology (it's an example go with it) either using seduction, force, or promises of food, clothing, shelter, etc. Person B may start to call himself a Scientologist but on the inside he will still believe in the tenets of his previous/real religion.
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It doesn't really strengthen Scientology since it only adds a fake follower doing it for impure reasons. It just inflates the number of followers that religion would have so the number of true followers looks bigger than it actually is.

kds1980 · #**151** (**permalink**) 03-Oct-2011, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Spades

I never quite understood the drive of some to convert others into their religion by hook or crook. Yes it will add another number towards the ranks of that religion but it would be a hollow number that has no real meaning.

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For example:

Let's say that Person A forces Person B to convert to Scientology (it's an example go with it) either using seduction, force, or promises of food, clothing, shelter, etc. Person B may start to call himself a Scientologist but on the inside he will still believe in the tenets of his previous/real religion.

It doesn't really strengthen Scientology since it only adds a fake follower doing it for impure reasons. It just inflates the number of followers that religion would have so the number of true followers looks bigger than it actually is.

You are partially right.History tells us something different .Muslims converted millions forcefully ,at that time the heart of those who converted may remained with their earlier Religion but they raised their children with islam and some of these children became strict muslims.Infact in India some of Muslim kings were more fanatic which had Hindu mothers .In order to prove that they are true muslims they sometimes were much more barbaric towrads hindu than the one which had both muslim parents

Spades · #**152** (**permalink**) 03-Oct-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

You are partially right.History tells us something different .Muslims converted millions forcefully ,at that time the heart of those who converted may remained with their earlier Religion but they raised their children with islam and some of these children became strict muslims.Infact in India some of Muslim kings were more fanatic which had Hindu mothers .In order to prove that they are true muslims they sometimes were much more barbaric towrads hindu than the one which had both muslim parents

Ah... didn't think about the offspring. I was just thinking about the actual person being forced and not beyond that.

ohhcuppycakee · #**153** (**permalink**) 06-Oct-2011, 22:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lalihayer

kay,
you are trying your best preaching. You look at every scenerio and then try to find arguements in favour of Quran or other Islamic traditions. It is like lawyers fighting for a killer on trial. Problem is Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia has so much oil money, they can buy bunch of best scholars to interpret Quran to prove it scientifically or morally right. and they already have.
Quran was supposed to be 'Law and Order' book for Arabs only. It is not meant for civilised societies. IF it is timeless message from God, why Islamic scholars have to talk about historical context for justifying anything?
Why do Islamic scholars find inventions in Quran after somebody has already invented it? Why not stop wasting time preaching it and go for new inventions just looking at Quran? You might find a formula for a weapon stronger than Nuclear Bomb. Then you guys can force whole world including Western countries to submission and whole world can be brought under one Caliphate.
(Dream Like pinky and brain)

Every holy book has to be put in some context so others can understand. Otherwise people would not be able to understand the Bible, Bhagavad Gita, etc. There is a reason why the Qur'an says many times "O Mankind!" and not "O Arabs!" There is a reason why the Abyssinians were invited to Islam during the Prophet's time and not just the Arabs.