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| | | | | re: Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam Bhai Mardana ji even though born into a muslim family was a Sikh of the Guru - Guru Nanak Dev ji. *
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Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh It is not that circumsensed person gives more staifaction to female but it could more that that person gets more pleasure ... | Actually, non-circumcised males experience more pleasure because so many of the pleasure sensitive nerves are cut away with the foreskin during circumcision. Pleasures of the Foreskin
sorry if its off topic but I wanted to reply to that error. | 
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Originally Posted by carolineislands Actually, non-circumcised males experience more pleasure because so many of the pleasure sensitive nerves are cut away with the foreskin during circumcision. Pleasures of the Foreskin
sorry if its off topic but I wanted to reply to that error. | If I am not wrong majaority of americans use to circumise themselves without any religious reason.If what you said is true then why. | 
06-Mar-2008, 00:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Sinister 
when religions collide...thats when you see the true colours of a "divinely inspired" personality. | I know you were probably being facetious but there is a lot of truth in what you just said. I think that a lot of the truly divinely inspired personalities can be seen by their absence in certain contensious dialogs. Quote:
and what about the forced conversion of millions of young children to organized religion?
who cries for them?
| Ah... this is a major issue. My husband and I just watched "Jesus Camp." Have you seen it? I also got chills when I was watching a film of the post-muhammad-cartoon fiasco in Denmark and saw a little boy, about 7 or 8 years old in the crowd screaming death and behead and so on.
I think you've brought up two important points. One, the behavior of a truly divinely inspired person who sincerely seeks to bring about understanding by dialog, and two -- forced indoctrination of children. | 
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Originally Posted by kds1980 If I am not wrong majaority of americans use to circumise themselves without any religious reason.If what you said is true then why. | First, I apologize for being off topic but will respond to this question.
When my son was born 28 years ago (wow, am I THAT old???  and I still look good!) Anyhow, when my son was born, virtually EVERYBODY circumsised their male infants. Nobody seemed to no why but everybody did it. It seemed so barbaric to me that I started doing research on it before the birth. I asked several physicians what the purpose was for this procedure and they ALL told me there was no medical purpose. Some people have these backwards beliefs that circumcised men are somehow cleaner, which is so false. But then I started doing research on dangers and harms. Wow -- that is scary! Then I researched the actual procedure which is so barbaric to watch I actually threw-up after watching one film. Then I started finding out the benefits of natual, intact men and decided NOT to have my son circumcised. The surprising part was how much criticism I got for that! People were outraged. Other mothers criticized me and said he would hate me for that some day. They said he'd have some sort of complex when he realized he was "different" from the other boys. On and on. I've read about it quite a bit and research shows that there is absolutely NO medical purpose for the procedure -- it is 100% cultural and cosmetic. Not only that, it harms. It removes a large percentage of the pleasure sensing nerves and also causes desensitization from parts of genitals that then are constantly exposed and rubbing against clothing etc.. They become less sensitive during the course of a man's life. Circumcised men don't really understand this because they've never felt what uncircumcised men do. Just like circumcised women will never know the pleasure of what's been taken from them because its done as such an early age.
So, as for why do american's do this... well, for the same reason they do a lot of things -- because every one else is doing it. Beyond that, few question why.
Sad, huh?
Okay, sorry about topic moderators! You can move this if you want. I just wanted to answer that question.
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| | | | | re: Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam Quote "Bhai Mardana ji even though born into a muslim family was a Sikh of the Guru - Guru Nanak Dev ji. _______" Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/5724-call-muslims-seduce-sikh-girls-into.html Bhai Mardana never stated that he was atheist or Muslim, Khushwant Singh admitted that. All turban wearing with beard men are not necessarily believers of Sikhism. | 
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| | | | | re: Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam Thank you for your artical. yes Muslims are like FOX and they know, thier Muslim womens wil never change but our Girls, why they go after them.
We have given them enough freedom, we trusted our girls too much even though they still think, they are under parents thumb. They want to prove them self, they want to punish their parents.
Any of you have a sikh girl friend teach them tell them what are they up against. I would like to say thank you fo rthe person who posted this artical and I think we should post these artical in all Gurudwars and School board this way our children can read and see Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724
These are my thoughts.
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| | | | | re: Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam Hey guys!!
I think you all are living in 18th Century when women were helpless creatures.
It is very sad to say that even now we think the same for them and very much convinced by the stories of muslims targetting sikh girls.
Todays girls are quite sensible to understand what they are doing. We simly can't raise fingures at muslim males because they are seducing sikh women. No body can seduce a women if she doesn't want to be seduced; otherwise it will be called a rape.
I hope whoever wrote these posts are sensible and educated people who are aware of the current social scenarios. Why do you raise questions os a sikh marrying a muslim. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724
Why not why a sikh eats meat and drinks alcohol?????? Why do not you raise fingures at your own religion who has strictly said NO NO to non vegetarian and alcohol but still we as sikhs are famous for 'sharaabi and kawaabi'. Why do not you see that we as sikhs cut our hair despite of our gurus sacrifices??? Why we sikhs do not do nit name despite of our gurus orders to do so??????
Please see you religion first. Atleast muslims strictly follow what their prophet mohammed preached them. eating halal meat, no alcohol, friday namaaz if not 5 times a day.............................At least they are able to avoid chicken-mutton if its not halal but are we sikhs are able to do this small thing what our gurus said????????/
Please answer this first before raising fingers at muslims. Try to understand the essence of our religion which same for every religion i.e. 'One God'.
There is only one answer to all questions i.e One God. But if we want to fight and create disparities then it your wish. Every god has conveyed only one message. Other teachings just tell you how to live your life in right order. If you are born as sikh and want to become muslim....................no problems!!!!!!!!!!! as long as you are not hurting any body as long as you are not killing any body or as long as you are not doing anything wrong to anybody it is fine. God might have made a lot of religions but also he has given us minds to see the right aspect which is one God/ babaji/ ramji/ allah/ christ= one God.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724
Its now your wish if you want to complicate things!!!!!!!!!!! | 
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Why do not you raise fingures at your own religion who has strictly said NO NO to non vegetarian and alcohol but still we as sikhs are famous for 'sharaabi and kawaabi'
| Before giving lecture first learn about sikhism.Where does it strictly says to no no to non vegetarian food.And yes may be sikhs are famous as sharabi kababi's but what muslims are famous for Notorious criminals.Let me give you some statistics.Crime rate in rate among
muslims in India is exceptionally high.They are involved in all type of illegal activities
Ever heard of Dawood ibrahim,or Abu salem etc Quote: |
No body can seduce a women if she doesn't want to be seduced; otherwise it will be called a rape.
| Just read the news following.Is this the 18th century news
A hidden world in which Asian men “groom” young white girls for sex has been exposed with the jailing yesterday of two men for child-abuse offences. Grooming of white girls for sex is exposed as two Asian men jailed - Times Online
Zulfqar Hussain, 46, and Qaiser Naveed, 32, from east Lancashire, were each jailed for five years and eight months after exploiting two girls aged under 16 by plying them with alcohol and drugs before having sex with them. | 
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| | | | | re: Call To Muslims To Seduce Sikh Girls Into Islam I think you should look into sikhism first!!
Whatever you said is true and I do not deny it. But what ever I said about non vegetarian, it is true and you can confirm from any learned sikh person or may be Gyani ji.
And about the muslim sex racket........... Don't you know about the blue star operation where, sikh preists were having fun inside the golden temple with girls and alcohol. You can ignore these facts but still they will remain facts. At least muslims do not do these kind of shameful deeds in their holy sacred places as what our sikhs did.
I again say, please look at your religion's weekness before pointing at others especially muslims. Do not forget what our indian army is doing to Muslim Kashmiri girls!!!!!!! Indian army consists of Sikhs, hindus and others. What will you say about them???
Do also address the issues related to not cutting hair in sikhism and still sikhs want to cut their hair and a lot of them are now have good styled hair cuts. Are we able to protect our religion.
Sikhs originated because of Muslims. Islam is older than Sikhism. Sikhism is less than 500 years old. But still Muslims are able to continue their religious rituals and are we as sikhs are able to do that????? So which religion is stronger?? Ours or theirs?? Who is able to continue their true identity?? Sikhs or Muslims??
Muslims are not treated fairly in this world as others including sikhs and christians are envious of their dedication towards Islam. We have no right to point our fingures towards muslims as we are also not able to follow our religion properly. How many of us meet even 2 of the 5 things told by our sikh gurus??????// You will get your answers. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5724
Every sect has bad and good people. I have seen a lot of muslims who are very good human being even better than some of my relatives and sikh friends. but it doesn't mean sikhs are bad. All religions are same. You follow whatever you want to follow and don't raise fingures at other religions especially Islam.
Mind it always as if you will do that you will destroy the essence of your own religion i.e. sikhism. | 
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