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Sat Nam, and Greetings, to everyone!
Yes, this sort of thing has been going on for some time. The boys will wear a kara to disguise their true intentions, so to speak.
If you truly wish to understand the entire nature of the problem, it will take some study.
First, you must understand what the motivation may be for the attempts at conversion.
Then, you should think about reflecting on the fact that those who decide to convert to Sikhism do so of their very own free will; we are not allowed to "convert" anyone. Each needs to relate to the Divine in their own way.
Then, you may reflect on the history of conversion to Islam, very often at the point of a sword-"Convert or die, Infidel!"
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I am not denigrating Islam. What I deplore is the attempt of removal of individual free will when it comes to discourse with God, whether that attempt is by overt force, subversion, or fraud and trickery.
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The Sikh girls need to be as well educated as the boys, and participate as fully as the boys in all aspects of life.
More later.
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Sat Nam and Greetings to everyone!
Yes, this sort thing has been going on for some time. The boys will often wear karas to try to disguise themselves and their intentions.
To truly understand the problem, it will take some study. Yes, the parents of the girls need to understand this sort of thing does go on. They should also do their best to impart to their children the joys of Sikhism.
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It may also be kept in mind how conversions are done- historically, often at the point of a sword- "Convert or die, Infidel!" in Islam. Perhaps this is still going on, in one way or another.
I am not denigrating Islam. However, it is deplorable that anyone should attempt to influence someone's discourse with the Divine by fraud, trickery, coercion, threat and/or force of any kind.
Girls should be as fully educated as boys, and participate fully in the Sikh life.
Both boys and girls should be shown the advantages of Bana. It lends a great dignity to the individual, and assists in self-respect.
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PAKISTAN An 18-year-old Christian woman raped and forced to convert to Islam - Asia News

An 18-year-old Christian woman raped and forced to convert to Islam
by Qaiser Felix
A young Christian woman from Faisalabad is abducted by a Muslim man after visiting an aunt. She was held for ten days and forcibly converted to Islam. Despite a complaint from the victim’s father, the police have not yet taken any steps fearing the religious repercussions they may have.


Faisalabad (AsiaNews) – A young Christian woman was kidnapped, raped and forced to convert to Islam by a Muslim man in Faisalabad, Khalil Tahir, chairman of “Adal Trust,” a free legal aid organisation that helps minorities, told AsiaNews.

According to early reports, 18-year-old Razia went to visit her aunt on October 21 but never came home. Her parents went out looking for her but to no avail. They also contacted a Muslim man, Sajid, who had harassed her in the past, but he denied any knowledge of her whereabouts.

Razia did eventually make it home on October 31 in a state of shock. She told her parents that Sajid had abducted her, repeatedly raped her and forced her to convert to Islam. She is currently under medical care.

“The girl’s father went to the police to file a complaint on the evening of Razia’s return, but they were reluctant to register the case fearing that it might get out of proportion because of its religious element,” Khalil Tahir told AsiaNews.
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For the time being “that man is free,” he said. “He can do whatever he wants,” he added, “but as a lawyer I’ll do everything in my power to help the family get justice in a Pakistani court.”
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Wahe Guruji Ka Khalsa Wahe Guruji ki Fateh,

I am not denying the fact that Islamic plicy is to covert sikh girls by hook or crook. But my point is why can't we make our roots strong enough so that NO ONE can seduce our girls. As this is the major issue at the moment in England. WHY can't we work on eliminating the root cause of the problem by educating our children and strengthen our backbone. You might have noticed in my article that I blamed our own community and parents in our community. Majority of them has inherited the gora's way of living. Our community representatives ( Gurdwara committees ) are too busy fighting for the positions in the gurdwaras and not doing anything for the educating children about religion. Children do not want to go to gurdwaras because they cannot understand what the path means and they find it boring to listen to something which they cannot understand. Now a days kids attitude is not the same as us lot when we were younger. Kids learn more by involving into activities. The approach to educate them needs to be changed from very begining. More activities should be arranged in gurdwaras and community centres so that gives them incentive to come to classes, not forcibly with their own wish.
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And then educate them there in a way that they understand the importance of preserving our religion.
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I must apologise if any body does not like my views but that is the way i feel.
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if this is true, where do i go to apply for that £10,000?
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Any proof?
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where do I apply for this £10,000 you guys really believe that?
Do you guys realise that to believe in something you need proof?
So do you have proof for this claim?
Do you have proof you are following the right religion, the one chosen by God?
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Do you have proof you are following the right religion, the one chosen by God?

when religions collide...thats when you see the true colours of a "divinely inspired" personality.

and what about the forced conversion of millions of young children to organized religion?
who cries for them?
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where do I apply for this £10,000 you guys really believe that?
Do you guys realise that to believe in something you need proof?
So do you have proof for this claim?
Do you have proof you are following the right religion, the one chosen by God?
Common use some common sense!
Why are you asking this question here its better if you ask this to maulavai's of england
These are undercover operations
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when religions collide...thats when you see the true colours of a "divinely inspired" personality.

and what about the forced conversion of millions of young children to organized religion?
who cries for them?
1 religion is attacking other religions,not providing minorites any right's treating women like slave's but you humanists have no guts to speak againbst that religion.instead you paint all religion with same brush
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when religions collide...thats when you see the true colours of a "divinely inspired" personality.

and what about the forced conversion of millions of young children to organized religion?
who cries for them?
Is this the teaching of that religion, what they are doing is it in their scriptures, if not this means they are realy not who they are claiming to be. If you cant understand this simple logic, how can you believe every claims you hear on the news?
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