Though...inspiration, especially in a personal sense, is a very good motivator to encourage people to change. Our Guru's understood this only too well thus became a living and personal inspiration to everybody.

I'd say, seeing the Khalsa's going into battle and laying down their lives, would become an inspiration to the people around them in how they should model their OWN lives....works both ways hunna?

Regards
Gursharan Singh

I disagree to some extent, as a Sikh boy (haircut) I know almost everything about my religion and other religions. This is because I have the desire to know. If the Sikh youth have no desire in the u.k. about their religion then that is up to them, that is their freedom.
Personally you are right about not enough youth are interested, but saying that alot of youth are interested and are affiliated with a number of organisations, i know this from my own city coventry. The youth in the u.k. that do know Sikhism put to shame the youth in india, they haven't a clue and do not seem interested instead they try to be more westernised.

One of the problems of the Sikh youth in the u.k. is there is not enough education for them. for example you walk down the street in an asian area and almost certainly you will see flyers for speeches and discussions inviting islamic youth of u.k. and these are held in english. How many Sikh discussions are there in english on a widescale? hardly none, we have Sikh camp and thats about it, we need education in english in every city. the gurdwaras keep telling us to become interested, but then seem only to satisfy the 2nd generation who come from india where does that leave us?
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh!

Thank you hardeep, rightly said! I mean everyone knows the Gurudwara Committees.. How THEy behave! Treat Gurudwara as thier income, as their PROPERTY. WAHEGURU. TO my knowledge, they don't really care about the youth.

And on top of that, I noticed that only two types of people stay in the Guru Ghar. Old retired poeple who talk about their own young life who about others (including chuglai) and little children who run around the place. The youth are usually outside chatting about Bhangra/Bollywood or Girls/Boys.

I hope that in the future... the Punjabi Culture will spearate form the Sikh religion.. in the minds of people. BEcuase this, in my views, is the main cause.

this sort of biased behaviour is qhat cofuses the youth of today, if our religion lys down strict guidelines they should be followed, however forget about fathers and brothers abusing alcohol, its known for a a fact that the niang singhs of sikhisim consume a more local form of booze called 'bhang', i dont really think restarint is what they were telling us, its more like dont abuse it. i feel that somewhere along the line between the first and the last guru, the message was lost

Dear Kaur ji


It would be more helpful if you can elaborate this point of your


Jatinder Singh

__________________
PrIdw kwl^ØI ijnI n rwivAw DaulI rwvY koie ]

huh?! the message was NOT lost. the message was lost as soon as Guru Ji became in a different form. We as Sikhs are so pathetic we fail to see Guru Ji as a Guru rather than a "book". You cant just blame Guru Ji for what his Sikhs are doing.. its our OWN fault!!! So please, dont insult Guru Ji They were 1 JYOT, all were Guru Nanak DEv Ji..

DHAN GURU NANAK!!

WJKK
WJKF
DEAR DrKhalsaji, It is not a fault of a single person. It is being heard from my childhood. I'm at 31st step of life. The only Thing I want to say that This thread has the very true topic. Harpreetkaurji elighten the facts of the common Sikh's house. But she is not aware that how much is she confused herself by herself or by her mother, who taught her like this. It is very much disturbing to a Gursikh when a Sikh can draw a line in between 10 GURUS. The more common fact is that we are not aware of our state of mind. But we can talk about the difference between GURUS. How can a Sikh achieve the high spiritualism, If we are not opening our soul towards Waheguru, Materials of today's world are distracting us from that. We must have the knowledge of our GURUS and must we surrender to supreme. So many answers we can find in ourselves but anyone can be Giani but sometimes in life one have to open his mind by listning to a person. IN Japji Saheb Guru Nanakji said, Kahte pavit, sunte puneet. Just look at the message of Harpreetkaurji, this states the confusion of Sikh Girls.

sat sri akal
i am terribly sorry if my statement hurt anyones sentiments, especially when it comes to the religion that one is born into, sex, politics and religion are all very sensitive issues and this site is highly explosive. well its all about expressing your doubts, there is nothing wrong in that, im certinally not slandering any of the gurus or saints, just putting my thoughts across, and if they tend to bring out aggression, then i think il find my answers by just browsing through the comments listed by other learned members of this site, i know mu knowledge of gurbani might not be enough to add quotes, but i do undertand and therefore i question and comment, as im only human, once again i apologise to any memeber who felt offended by my thoughts, bhul chuk maaf. and p.s, rosethorne ji , what did my mother have to do with any of this? im afraid u were being a bit judgemental there, dont account her for my thoughts, interpretation and thought expression is not a genetic defect.

Dear Khalsa ji

There is no need to hold your self from asking question about any topic thatbothers you and this is the soul purpose of the website . I nderstand that some disscusion take a turn which seems explosive but all of us here on forum havemanaged to handle all this situations in the past well and hope so in future with akals bleesings

Anyway as for me i never found your comment sto be insulting towards our guru ji but surely would like to know more in detail about your comment as i could not understand it fully

I hope you will understand my point that all the heat generated in arguments i snot there to stop you puting your thoughts forward but understand the issues in more detail


Jatinder Singh

__________________
PrIdw kwl^ØI ijnI n rwivAw DaulI rwvY koie ]

I dont think its really the parents, since parents have been brought up with different standards. I think its the media influence of western culture. The fact that we want to me more "white." Dont get me wrong, youth may not display this, but why do we buy, parasuco short skirts. Ecko tops and Rocawear jeans? Simple reason, Exceptence. The parents are just trying to uphold the values that were given to them by their parents (current grandparents.)