Sikh Names

Sikh Names · 09-06-2005, 08:37 PM

satrisakal evrybody !!!!

i was just thinking who here has got a english name and their sikh ?
i get really annoyed at this especially 1 name kevinjit ! sorry to any1 with this name !

amarsanghera · #21 (**permalink**) 17-04-2008, 10:31 AM

what is a "sikh" name?

pk70 · #22 (**permalink**) 18-04-2008, 07:44 AM

what is a "sikh" name?

amarsanghera ji

It needs a pretty good research, doesn't it?

aad0002 · #23 (**permalink**) 18-04-2008, 07:57 AM

Pk70, amarsanghera, jios!

How does a convert change from a Western name. Is baptism the only way? Or may I start referring to myself as "kaur" right now? One of those puzzles and I never get the same answer when I ask the question.

amarsanghera · #24 (**permalink**) 18-04-2008, 10:58 AM

may i rather ask another question, braving my self and bracing up for some brick bats, what is a "name" ?

antonia ji,

A rose by any name would smell the same

aad0002 · #25 (**permalink**) 18-04-2008, 06:48 PM

amarsanghera ji

I am not good at answering philosophical questions. But I will think about it.

pk70 · #26 (**permalink**) 20-04-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

Pk70, amarsanghera, jios!

How does a convert change from a Western name. Is baptism the only way? Or may I start referring to myself as "kaur" right now? One of those puzzles and I never get the same answer when I ask the question.

aad0002 Ji,

If you feel deeply about it, just do it. Changing name should never be tied to amrit ceremony. If later on at the time of amrit ceremony, if they ask you to change the name, you just say you want to keep it. No one would mandate it.

RGDS

aad0002 · #27 (**permalink**) 20-04-2008, 06:49 AM

pk70 ji

As always you give a tempered and respectful response. But I have another question, if you don't mind my asking.

Why have I heard some say -- the only way to change to a Sikh name is through amrit or baptism?

Here is another ironic side to my question. There is a well-known journalist and inter-faith spokesman originally from New York State. His name is Ralph Singh. He studied with a holy man in India for several years. He took amrit. And he kept the name "Ralph." Can you see how confusing this is?

What do you think?

namjap · #28 (**permalink**) 20-04-2008, 01:12 PM

Aad Ji,

I've also heard extensively that anybody wearing all the 5K's is an Amritdhari (baptised). They are two separate issues. You can still wear all 5K's without first being baptised.

So is it with change of name. Separate issue altogether. There is no physical law enforcement in Sikhism where you're caught and put before a Sharia Court for proceedings against you.

aad0002 · #29 (**permalink**) 20-04-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by namjap

Aad Ji,

I've also heard extensively that anybody wearing all the 5K's is an Amritdhari (baptised). They are two separate issues. You can still wear all 5K's without first being baptised.

Thanks for clearing that one up -- a freebie.

So is it with change of name. Separate issue altogether. There is no physical law enforcement in Sikhism where you're caught and put before a Sharia Court for proceedings against you.

Thanks for clearing this one up too -- good thing this is a religion without a Sharia Court. So many variations by so many people.

pk70 · #30 (**permalink**) 21-04-2008, 06:39 AM

Aad0002 ji

Namjap ji has pretty much clarified the issue you have about name changing; however please allow me to say a bit about that which brought you to confusing point. a lot of people out there who are just keep adding new things to Sikhism and I strongly doubt if these were ever given importance by our Glorious Guru Sahiban; name changing is also one of it. I personally think Tenth Master chose names for his sons, have a look at it meanings of those names( Sahibzadas”Ajeet Singh-undefeatable, Jujhar Singh- worrior- Jorawar Singh- a Strong one-, Fateh Singh- Victory- , you will find an evidence of his strong desire to fill the people with enthusiasm for self protection. History supports Sahib(Guru Ji) defeated kings of Hill Area but never allowed his Sikhs to take over the regimes( as you are aware of the fact that those days if king was defeated, kingdom would go to the winner), the reason was very crystal clear, Tenth Master was there to represent First Master not the worldly game. He was just obeying First Master to build self protective instinct in Sikhs as it is well expressed in a Guru shabad” Khurasaan khasmana Kia.. Mehla 1” I shall elaborate that point on an other thread in detail soon. Naming through amrit ceremony is a choice, and if some says otherwise, it must be challenged. As you have stated about Ralph Singh, that is good example to follow.
Sorry if I have taken your too much time for simple question.

Rgds