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Old 01-Aug-2011, 22:46 PM
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I just wanted to know if it was wrong for a Sikh to get braids, this doesn't include cutting of the hair, just platting the hair in an African style?
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Re: Is it wrong for a sikh boy to get braids?

hello again little brother

If you plait your hair, I think you will find that although you still have your kesh, it is not presented to the world as a sikh would wear it, or the way your Guru would want you to present yourself, the only boon here is that there is a way back to kesh/pugh.
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Given your last post, I would not worry too much about it, concentrate on getting your soul clean, braid your hair if you feel you must, but try and get yourself back on track to the 'golden path' , once you have filled your light with the right company, and the right pleasures, you will question why you even thought about braids
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Re: Is it wrong for a sikh boy to get braids?

yeahh brother i understand you, thank you!
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Re: Is it wrong for a sikh boy to get braids?

Brother,

I take it you still wear your turban, will you do something for me please, I want you to go look in the mirror, and look hard. What you see is a sikh man, you may not understand what exactly this means, I do not know your upbringing, but I was you once, uncool, awkward, desperate to be validated by my peers, and then in the end, desperate to be validated by anyone. There is nothing wrong at all with black culture, but then what is so wrong with sikh culture that you would want to look like an african?. I will tell you something, if you were to look deeply into the culture and history of your own background, it would blow your mind, the philosophies and spirituality, the sheer common sense, it is all there, and you already have the identity for it, Baba deep Singh Ji, Baba Banda Bahadur ji, many many heroes, much equality , much enlightenment, you have been lucky enough to be born a king of the world, you just need to educate yourself, there is no sin, there is no paap, you just get further away, or closer to the creator, it is in your hands, but the further you move away, the further you have to go to move back.

Brother be proud, all that you are being drawn to at present is temporary and pointless and will only give you moments of pleasure, the true hero does not dwell in the gutter of drink and drugs and women, the true hero stands proud and unbroken, yet experiences pleasure that would put your spliff and scotch to shame.
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I know where you are at present, I know how hard it is to stop, just make small steps in the right direction, use your brain, think, see, what is the gutter offering you, what is sikhi offering you, make your own choice

You will never be too far to come back brother, but why make it harder for yourself
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Re: Is it wrong for a sikh boy to get braids?

yeahh i understand brother, i aint going to lie, i wanted braids just obviously for something new and modern but to look cool i suppose, i've braided my hair twice in my lifetime and this was a 6-7 year gap between both. i feel in our society today the "British" society, you need to be modern etc to be accepted, getting judged for wearing a bucktah doesn't offend me but i feel it sometimes lowers my self confidence due to the fact that all my friends have haircut and i dont, not saying i want a haircut because i would never want one but nowadays the "stand out from the crowd" doesn't really apply
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Re: Is it wrong for a sikh boy to get braids?

Hmm...
Sounds like you need to contemplate the words of Harry ji more deeply.

Notice how he says there is nothing wrong with getting braids but the desire for braids is coming out of insecurity and restlessness.
So the issue is much deeper than braids or turban. If you can fix this issue it will improve your life in many other unrelated areas, and overall you will feel better. Because insecurities also run in relationships, which I think are also important to you. Also recall your other sin thread, some are showign up there. if you can learn to deal with insecurities and restlessness in one area, it will give you experience with how to deal with it in other areas (that is if there is anything still left to deal with ).

First learn to accept the insecurity and it's consequences until you are over it. You can go as far as showcasing your insecurity until you feel completely comfortable with having it.

Learn to be OK with wearing a turban. Learn to see it as acceptable and something to be proud of. Grow your perception so that it begins to see the awesome history behind the turban as you look deeply at any turban (whether Sikh, Afghani, or any other one).
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36525

So that means some research is up next. Read up on some history. Plain and simple. Then think about that history.

Also some meditation on the turban is also called for. Paying attention to the different styles. You know, each turban has it's own personality. Can you see it? Can you try and describe that personality? We can help you do that through images from Google. We can ask you certain questions and share our observations. That will help grow your perception of what a turban is.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36525

Once the turban looks not only appropriate for any situation but looks wicked, and you know your insecurity and restlessness about wearing it, is no more then do whatever you want with your hair.
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I will tell you about cool brother, having been jailed for driving offences, I thought i was going to get the life kicked out of me in prison, lets face it, I was about to enter the one place where being cool can save your life, and do you know what I found, I found respect, people, especially the black community respect individuality, they respect people that do not follow the crowd, you are cool already, you just do not realise it, I was left alone, sometimes even people stood up for me, because they thought that if I went to that much effort to keep my hair and my pugh, even in prison, then I must be a man of conviction and honour (ok at the time they were wrong, but thats not the point)
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36525
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If its your self confidence, then you must realise that comes from within. Let me give you an example, a friend of my wife has a bust enlargement to boost her confidence, and soon she was swamped with dates, but, she told my wife, 'they all just want to look at my chest, no one is interested in ME', well of course they do, just like if you get braids and become popular, it will not be YOU, it will be your braids, if you study some sections of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, some of which can be quite exciting, you will learn how to boost your self confidence without external measures, it will flow from inside, and people will be more interested in YOU

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Re: Is it wrong for a sikh boy to get braids?

Harry ji
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I was not aware that you still wore a turban. What style of turban do you wear?
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I am sorry to say I do not, my mad driving days were in my mid twenties, I sported a pony tail from 27 to 29, and then removed the option of going back. But, I sported the strawberry type as opposed to the streamlined kenya/uganda type.

I cut my hair because, at the time, I believed I was fallen, and in the process severed all ties with sikhism for nearly 16 years. I did not believe I was good enough to be a sikh, I thought I was bad, which is why I feel very strongly that young people, even if they have fallen, do not feel that the path is closed to them, like I did.
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