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3. Do you believe it your responsibility to behave differently if you believe you have crossed a moral or ethical line?
Not only is it your responsibility, but it will benefit you and the world.

A person can start by undoing the harm they have done as much as possible. Then they can learn from the incident so they can become a person they are proud of. After that, there is nothing left to do but move forward.



 
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Re: I want to be forgiven for my sins.

Sikhboy11 Ji,

The very fact that you have re-counted your "sins" says something... that you are keenly aware of what is wrong and what is right. You have a moral compass. Why do what is wrong when it feels horrible afterwards? And blaming your external circumstance is an excuse, the world will try to define you your whole life. It won't stop.

When you're young, it'll tell you you're inexperienced. But you're actually untainted.
When you're old, it'll tell you you are weak. But you're actually wise.
When you're male, it'll tell you you're aggressive. But you're actually strong.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/36523-i-want-to-forgiven-my-sins.html
When you're a woman, it'll tell you you are secondary. But you're actually the womb.
There's no end.... there will always be something it will tell you. dont listen to it!!! It'll lure you in with "validation" and temptation, weaken you, chew you up and spit you out.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36523

Hold on to what you know in your heart and brain to be right, b/c it'll send all these signals to you when you're not doing right. And they will weaken you and keep you off your path of goodness and becoming who you are.
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Re: I want to be forgiven for my sins.

Who is the right one to "forgive" a "sin?"
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so far ...no reply to the question, What is the Sikh perspective on sin?
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Who is the right one to "forgive" a "sin?"
In Christianity that would be God. The reason being that the word "sin" specifically refers to an action that breaks God's rules - it is between the sinner and God. You would not say you "sinned" against another human - you would use a different word such as hurt, trespassed, offended etc. Of course, many actions can be considered a sin against God and an offense against a person at the same time.
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so far ...no reply to the question, What is the Sikh perspective on sin?
Is there an "official" Sikh answer to that question?

Many knowledgeable people say there is no such concept as sin in Sikhi, but many people use the word "sin" anyway, to mean something that takes a person farther from Waheguru. It strikes me as either a concept imported from Christianity, or a word used to explain to Christians in their terms. Similar to the way one might call the ritual of Amrit "baptism".

...but that's just my guess.

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Re: I want to be forgiven for my sins.

The Sikh philosophy has its own 'Karma' theory. It believs that the Karmas bring you with the positive and negative conclusions, but at the same time, Karma is not absolute, unlike Hindu and Buddhist Karma theory where karmas once performed, cannot be reversed and in a strong sense are absolute. The admittance of one's negative karmas before the Guru results in an immediate redemption. Of course, everyone sins(?, if ever there are sins), but the big thing is, whether you admit them or not. Since you have admitted them (the sincerity of which I do not wish to certify, but the Guru surely will), the good news for you is that since the karmas are not absolute, the Guru can pardon them, the thing you have to do is to immerse yourself in the message of Gurbani and bring out a completely new and rejuvenated human everytime you sin(?). Guru is great, he pardons the sinners. That's all I can say....
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Who is the right one to "forgive" a "sin?"

so far ...no reply to the question, What is the Sikh perspective on sin?
I am not sure of the sikh perspective, so I will let someone else more able to answer that one, but logic suggest the right one to forgive is the one sinned against

My own view is that the creator does not care, does not get disappointed and has no interest if you run over next doors cat, which in itself quite an interesting scenario. You get home, your late, you run over next doors cat, you can either take it to a vet, inform next door, do all you can to assist in something you were the cause of, and try and be as apologetic, sorry and understanding as you can. In my house, if someone ran over Virgil, my wife would be saddened for some time, she would get over it, but it would have a definite effect on her life, and mine, it would not be a small deal.

The other option would be, uhm its only a cat, no one knows I hit it, Im going to bed, I do not think the creator cares one way or another, I think it is for your own conscience to try and correct what you were the cause of, to the person that has been wronged.
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I believe its your responsibility to admit you have done wrong and to find a way to draw yourself from the dark into the light
Sin is something that comes in disregard...!!! When you do some deed that is prohibited in your religion ... This is called sin!
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No one. There are no Sins defined in Sikhism.

One can make errors and mistakes and you work those out with the people that are affected by those. For personal and Panthic (the Sikh body) indiscretions specific to Sikh norms and expectations of good living, the Sadh Sangat (congregation) is first stop as per Sikh Rehayt Maryada.


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Sikhism does not define SINS and hence does not absolve you of any. Guidance on living a good practical life is amply provided for free.
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PS: spnadmin ji you are way smarter than me and I wrote above if it helps others.
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