A Confused Punjabi-Sikh Girl

spnadmin · #91 (**permalink**) 31-May-2011, 03:33 AM

Based on the video she gave us to look at, she will be covered pretty well. I am more concerned that the thread becomes the village square where we gather round and damn this and damn that, with a lot of damning rather than exchange of ideas going on.
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The topic pertains to a career choice. Let's try to keep close to it.
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findingmyway · #92 (**permalink**) 03-Jun-2011, 06:04 AM

Spnadmin ji,
I don't want to continue an inflammatory war and there are so many things I can say to Lion Prince Jatinder ji but I have only 1 comment to make then I will keep quiet. I am sick of so much hypocricy and females always being maligned so have to share 1 thing I have experienced and seen so many times in relation to looks:

A sabat surat Sikh guy expecting his wife to remove her kesh (shave legs, shape eyebrows etc) so that she will look pretty in dresses and match the popular notion of beauty.
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If that is not double standards then I do not know what is!

Mai Harinder Kaur · #93 (**permalink**) 03-Jun-2011, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by findingmyway

Spnadmin ji,
I don't want to continue an inflammatory war and there are so many things I can say to Lion Prince Jatinder ji but I have only 1 comment to make then I will keep quiet. I am sick of so much hypocricy and females always being maligned so have to share 1 thing I have experienced and seen so many times in relation to looks:

A sabat surat Sikh guy expecting his wife to remove her kesh (shave legs, shape eyebrows etc) so that she will look pretty in dresses and match the popular notion of beauty.

If that is not double standards then I do not know what is!

That is a consideration. Dancers, in general, are expected to be devoid of body hair and have "groomed" faces.

Personally, I always thought my hairy legs and slightly bushy (when I was younger) eyebrows were quite attractively fetching in a primate sort of way.

spnadmin · #94 (**permalink**) 03-Jun-2011, 09:17 AM

findingmyway ji

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Spnadmin ji,
I am sick of so much hypocricy and females always being maligned

You are not the only one who is sick of it. So am I. It is like a reflex. Hit the "Punjabi Girl Bone" with a hammer, and out come the fingers, shaming and blaming, and claiming they cannot be trusted to make sound decisions or use cell phones.

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A sabat surat Sikh guy expecting his wife to remove her kesh (shave legs, shape eyebrows etc) so that she will look pretty in dresses and match the popular notion of beauty.

It is a double standard. And the exact example you give is the subject of NUMEROUS Sikhtoons, and other cartoons. Quite a few. The sardar on a motorcycle with a babe in a side-car is the one that comes to mind.

Ishna · #95 (**permalink**) 03-Jun-2011, 09:22 AM

Here here, Findingmyway ji. Very well said.

It's almost in the same caterogy as turban-wearing sardarjis who say turbans don't look attractive on women.

Navdeep88 · #96 (**permalink**) 03-Jun-2011, 10:29 AM

this thread's still in progress?

boy, things do take on a life of their own on spn

seeker3k · #97 (**permalink**) 04-Jun-2011, 22:02 PM

No woman found equality in religion. Sikhism is no different. Men in Sikhism will hold on to their control by any means. Women all over got their rights by joining other women out side of religion. Men here on this site are very arrogant they will not support any woman who wants to peruse her own mind.
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Kanwaljit Singh · #98 (**permalink**) 05-Jun-2011, 00:49 AM

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Sikhism is no different. Men in Sikhism will hold on to their control by any means.

Do men control Gurbani? Can men change a woman's fate if Guru has destined her for Union?

davinderdhanjal · #99 (**permalink**) 05-Jun-2011, 11:49 AM

Control is necessary for guidance.
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A mother takes control of the children to make sure no harm comes to them, teach and educate them to look after themselves.
The control she will have over the children will depend on how well she has control over herself.
Her control is tailored to the environment and facilities available to her, provision of those facilities is the domain of the father usually, but if the mother is educated well she contributes more to that.
If father is educated well his ability to provide is enhanced – if he squanders by drinking, gambling, womanising etc. then the ‘provision’ for the family is reduced – the direction and influence on the family will dilute from what mother is attempting to instil.
In my experience the woman usually has a better control on herself than a man – when the man has the same or better control of himself – that is the time for him to share or take control of the boys and girls and mother if necessary – otherwise it is the woman who guides the ship as best as she can – the direction will come from the structure of the family not idle talk.
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If in doubt revert to being a Gursikh!