31-Mar-2010, 07:42 AM
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I offen wonder does Sikh and khalsa mean the same thing and can terms be ussed intermittently.  *
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31-Mar-2010, 08:41 AM
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To me, it was never meant to be same. Had it been equated at their births? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/29756-sikh-or-khalsa.html
If not, then why now.
If yes, why was this not proposed since beginning of our religion?
QED (quod erat demonstrandum) |
31-Mar-2010, 08:47 AM
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This is a great question, for lots of discussion, turning the problem over this way and that, and there are links to Gurbani that also can be used to clarify points of view. | | The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | |
31-Mar-2010, 11:01 AM
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A Sikh could be anyone seeking and learning about the Ultimate truth or the Akalpurakh but A Khalsa is same as above but he is baptized one or had the Khande ke pahul and is learing thro the Gurus way (thro Gurmat). |
31-Mar-2010, 20:17 PM
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Look at it this way... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29756
1. ALL soldiers are men/women...BUT not all Men/women are soldiers..
2. All Khalsa are SIKHS..but not all sikhs are KHALSA...
can be used in any situation......Doctor, Engineers, astronauts....teachers....whatever...
A KHALSA has a special Code of Conduct....an INITIATION CEREMONY...a daily Rehat..Nitnem..Life style...a Uniform ID..etc etc which is not necessarily a "must" for a sikh..rather a "recommendation"... so while we may have about 25 Million SIKHS..there may be only about 250,000 Khalsa....or less !!   :happykaur:  kh andaa  | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
04-May-2010, 02:35 AM
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Thought I'd share this video here... The Greeting: Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.  Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29756
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04-May-2010, 09:22 AM
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Guruka Singh ji says: Quote: |
I wonder why we never think [beforehand] about what we say [before we say it].
| I read in one my textbooks: Quote: |
If we thought before we spoke, the silence would be deafening.
| May I say, the institutionalized Khalsa, obviously is reserved for those who follow the code of conduct.
Khalsa as per its meaning still cannot interchangeable with Sikh. However, it can be used to refer to a Sikh. As a Sikh is to be pure of heart, or at least learn to do so. I read somewhere that Guru Gobind Singh ji used to to refer to Muslims and Hindus as Khalsa. | | The following members appreciate BhagatSingh Ji for the above message. | |
04-May-2010, 10:13 AM
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IMO A Sikh is one who follows only Sikh Gurus. A Khalsa can be anyone who is accepted by Guru whether he follows Gurus faith or not. |
04-May-2010, 16:08 PM
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Originally Posted by roab1  IMO A Sikh is one who follows only Sikh Gurus. A Khalsa can be anyone who is accepted by Guru whether he follows Gurus faith or not. |
..Mian Mir...Pir Budhu Shah..Bhikhan Shah were "Khalsa"....? or Sikhs ?? or Mulsims ? Mian Mir followed Guru Arjun Ji...Pir Budhu Saha sacrificed his 4 sons and 700 followers for Guru Ji at Bhanganni Battle...Bhikhan Shah Bowed towards Patna sahib (East) when Guru Ji was Born.... |
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waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh
sikh a learner
khalsa image of sikh  | 
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