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View Poll Results: For Sikh females: Do you keep all your body hair
Yes, always have 10 35.71%
Yes, but haven't always 10 35.71%
No, but I used to 2 7.14%
No 6 21.43%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 28-Feb-2010, 02:48 AM
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I suppose you are right.

No one is holding a gun to anyone's head when they take Amrit, and they are going in with both eyes open.
Or threatening to cut off their head if they don't.

I think these are just arguments put forward by nonkeshdhari Sikhs to justify what they are doing,

Each of us is where s/he is on this journey back home. There's no point in one criticsing another about where each is on the pa(n)th. I have my opinions from my own vantage point; you (whoever you are) have yours. At least one of us has found keeping kesh meaningful enough to die for. I think that it is time we stop bickering for a while and focus on the vital: mughals are again killing us.



How are we, as the Sikh Quam, going to react to it? Are we the Saadh Sangat or are we a bunch of quarrelsome children? How are we going to unite and stand as one against this murderous oppression?




 
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I never felt I was being denounced, anyway in this thread. Maybe elsewhere. Certainly among traditional Islamic, Christian, perhaps even Judaic cultures, I am/would be. That is very odd. Maybe I was and was too dense to notice. All in all I am too busy to worry about being denounced. My bigger concern is that all women find their voice and are not psychologically, physically, economically and politically abused.
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Re: Keeping My Bodily Kesh (Hair) and Getting used to the Gazes

First of all one needs to know their Identity. I am a Sikh and I am aware of Sikhi. If someone is doing something I do not have to do the same. I am an individual with the capacity to think on my own what is right and what is wrong. Unfortunately many of us do not think this way. If we see someone doing something we do the same. Example: If you are standing in traffic and you see a person run a red light the reality is many more people stand on that light will do the same if there is no traffic coming. Sikhs should always remember who they are and what Sikhi teaches us.
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If someone does something wrong because they are not aware that it is wrong, that is another thing. But if you know cutting any body hair is wrong and you still do it then what you are doing is wrong. If one calls themselves a Sikh then its his/her responsibility to follow Sikhi completely.

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Re: Keeping My Bodily Kesh (Hair) and Getting used to the Gazes

Caspian, to carry your argument further,,why not roam about naked,because that is how God wished us to look,with all those beautiful hair all over our body. God would then be really proud of his creation.
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Caspian, to carry your argument further,,why not roam about naked,because that is how God wished us to look,with all those beautiful hair all over our body. God would then be really proud of his creation.
What a lovely idea! A world so devoid of lust and violence that we no longer need clothing for either modesty or protection!

(I do still think about kechera, though.)


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I am a new member and i want to say that this site is amazing. My story is very long and complicated but in a nutshell, im a british pakistani girl embrasing sikhism. I am currently married (to a pakistani man), and so it has been difficult. On this topic, i just want to know, i have been keeping my kesh for the past 8 months and as im from a culture that removes hair from intimate parts, it is becoming a little uncomfortable but i want to keep it for the love of sikhi. Have any other women experienced the same who used to remove hair? Also, more importantly, recently i have come to hear conflicting views on it, with some saying it is not a neccessity to keep hair. I would just like some clarification on the subject and if i will be punished for removing it or rewarded for keeping it. I am a member here but it is difficult to come here often because i would be in trouble if my husband found sikh sites, but if anybody wishes to e-mail me with help and advise i would really appreciate it. Personal email deleted. Many thanks
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This budding Kaur is having a rough time in embracing Sikhi because of her culture. Please send her an e-mail both to give her information and also let her know there are people out here who care.
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Dear Narayanjot ji,

She says
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I am a member here but it is difficult to come here often because i would be in trouble if my husband found sikh sites,
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Which means she is taking a chance of God-only-knows-what each times she comes here. Is there nothing that can be done to help her?
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It is not clear to me whether you are a Muslim trying to embrace Sikhi. Or whether you are a Sikh having questions on the issue of keeping pubic hair.
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