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View Poll Results: For Sikh females: Do you keep all your body hair
Yes, always have 10 33.33%
Yes, but haven't always 12 40.00%
No, but I used to 2 6.67%
No 6 20.00%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 28-Jun-2012, 17:25 PM
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Sad to say, this woman has more coursge and commitment than most Khalsa today.

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Sad to say, this woman has more coursge and commitment than most Khalsa today.

Very True,

But then maybe they shouldn't be called Khalsa in the first place?
afterall, to be true khalsa is:

Khalsa mero satgur poora, Khalsa mero sajjan soora
Khalsa my satguru complete, Khalsa my virtous noble friend, brave dauntless warrior

how many of the people labelled Khalsa, or who label themselves khalsa are 100% pure and satgur poora?

until then i think we are all sikh (seekers of the truth)
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Very True,

But then maybe they shouldn't be called Khalsa in the first place?
afterall, to be true khalsa is:

Khalsa mero satgur poora, Khalsa mero sajjan soora
Khalsa my satguru complete, Khalsa my virtous noble friend, brave dauntless warrior

how many of the people labelled Khalsa, or who label themselves khalsa are 100% pure and satgur poora?

until then i think we are all sikh (seekers of the truth)
We are given the title of Khalsa when we accept Amrit. That is a beginning. It is a life-long process to actually become "khalsa" which only a very few attain. I think aspiring for it is enough.
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Old 28-Jun-2012, 18:30 PM
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Re: Keeping My Bodily Kesh (Hair) and Getting used to the Gazes

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We are given the title of Khalsa when we accept Amrit. That is a beginning. It is a life-long process to actually become "khalsa" which only a very few attain. I think aspiring for it is enough.
There was a thread on this forum discussin who is a khalsa, or who should be termed as a khalsa.

my personal thought is that someone should only be labelled/titled a khalsa when they attain 'khalsa'.

for the rest of us we are all seeking the truth (sikh).

I have come across people who have taken amrit and show a lot of ego and 5 thieves and 'call themselves' khalsa.
on the other hand i have come across souls who have accepted amrit, who you can feel the amrit oozing out of of, ego subcided...they wont even call themselves khalsa, very humble beings yet fierce to stand up for what is right.

i would only only ever use the word khalsa for the second type of person described above.

Just an opinion ji, i'm just a learner and seeker myself so appologies for any mistakes.

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Re: Keeping My Bodily Kesh (Hair) and Getting used to the Gazes

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my personal thought is that someone should only be labelled/titled a khalsa when they attain 'khalsa'.
At the risk of actually finding something to agree with you, I think your right, is aspiring enough? Can an aspiring doctor be as good as a qualified doctor?
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At the risk of going further off topic...

Is amrit sanskar the enrollment or the graduation?
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At the risk of going further off topic...

Is amrit sanskar the enrollment or the graduation?
Again this is only an opinion and using a similar analogy to Harry Ji,

When i enrol on a university course....i dedicate my time and effort to become something...i give my mind, wealth, effort to it.
When i graduate i can call myself an architect, doctor etc.

calling myself a doctor prior to achieving the status and level, is deceiving not only myself but the people around me, for they come to me trusting in my opinion and ability to help them.

thefore inderjeets ji's statement "this woman has more coursge and commitment than most Khalsa today" should not be made because Guru Ji said:

Khalsa mero satgur poora, Khalsa mero sajjan soora
Khalsa is my satguru complete, Khalsa my virtous noble friend, brave dauntless warrior

therefore the people that inderjeet ji is referring to are not khalsa and should not be labelled as such just because they have enrolled to attain khalsa
How can they read shabad as above and label themselve as khalsa. can they call themselves 'Satgur poora'?
Khalsa defines complete purity, someone you can go to and receive absolute truth and guidance.

imagine walking into the doctors practice, you need help to cure a strong flu, you walk in and every person in the pratice is labelled as a doctor...how difficult your task has become to receive help.
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