singh is king

sikh_80 · #1 (**permalink**) 15-Dec-2008, 08:34 AM

Singh is Kinng? Why today Singh is Kinng and before Singh is clown? Bollywood industries now starting to cash in on the Singh is Kinng craze. To understand just 30 years ago these Singhs were butchered in India, in Punjab, cut like weeds out of the framework of india and today to cash in we see this type of publicity.

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I have not seen the movie yet, but I am sure from its success it is a typical bollywood movie, with many one liners and a 20 minute story wrapped up in 1 hour of songs and melodrama.

Singh is King of what these days? No census can be done but by indications and rough numbers from punjab at least 75% of young Sikhs have given up there identity. To fit the confides of what the world and west accept. This is no King infact it is far from it, our heritage now sits in a book dusty in the corner of our homes, unopened, our history lies there. We bask in the warmth of greatness of past with very little contribution in our own lives, nobody wants to be uncomfortable, whether that's because of a job, or because we are just afraid now to stick out.

It is a shame that the time this title was appropriate, Singhs were defending India from jungles, with no homes with no comforts they were fighting for righteousness sacrificing everything. And opposite today, well to do Sikhs sacrifice nothing, we cant even sacrifice our own egos, we want to look modern, to fit in , to figure out anyway to assimilate into societies which really don't even hold a candle to the brightness of our history.

We follow our own brand of Sikhi, comfort Sikhi when things are not the way we like them its easily adjustable, easily we can move tenants, we can move gurbani being well educated to accommodate our own lifestyles. We really don't know what Sikhi is, today all tenants of this faith are sitting on the street, and there was a time when someone was sawed in half, cut limb by limb for things we give up on a whim.

A heritage forgotten is a heritage lost. And this is the result; a fake Singh is Kinng with snoop doggy dog wearing dastaar. And we are happy that wow we get this exposure. What of those who gave their lives, sacrificed their children who were cut piece by piece and they had only one line in their hearts, a thankfulness of Sikhism. When have we thanked god for being brought up in a Sikh family, with this rich tradition, probably never.

What a joke this is, what a mockery it is of what a Singh really should be. A Singh is someone who is in control of their destiny, who will not shake their ideals, and will uphold to death not only their rights but the rights of others, even if it means they will be joked about for saving hindu women at 12 o clock, they did it. Think about these details and one will have no thoughts of the selflessness of these individuals who having no problems of their own took on other ppls problems, having no homes of their own, saved other's homes.

These Singhs travelled at night, in the morning the only evidence being the hoof marks of their horses, it is said at that time women of the pinds which were protected by these unsung heros would come out and touch these tracks and pray that there sons be as brave as those who travelled the night.

There was no Batman or Superman, there were only those Khalsa's who defended the honor of those who had no other hope. We are part of that legacy, what will the future generations say about us? That the heros of the past have turned to drinking to cut hair to doing whatever seemed right for their on enjoyment, forgetting what a rich and one of a kind history they had.

The world is full of great ppl, but I challenge anyone to show me a community that has been through the adversity that Sikhs have, at one time being wiped out by 50% of their population. (That would mean even more than the holocaust for Jews by percentage). Within a year after that time frame they were the rulers of Punjab, after being cut down they only grew, after being killed they only increased. What resilience they had, today for the cheapest things for the things that have no value, we sacrifice, our priceless gifts, our priceless inheritance from those souls just vanishes into thin air.
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It is true, today we are only good enough for a movie title Singh is Kinng, otherwise there is no proof of that.

pk70 · #2 (**permalink**) 15-Dec-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sikh_80

Singh is Kinng? Why today Singh is Kinng and before Singh is clown? Bollywood industries now starting to cash in on the Singh is Kinng craze. To understand just 30 years ago these Singhs were butchered in India, in Punjab, cut like weeds out of the framework of india and today to cash in we see this type of publicity.

I have not seen the movie yet, but I am sure from its success it is a typical bollywood movie, with many one liners and a 20 minute story wrapped up in 1 hour of songs and melodrama.

Singh is King of what these days? No census can be done but by indications and rough numbers from punjab at least 75% of young Sikhs have given up there identity. To fit the confides of what the world and west accept. This is no King infact it is far from it, our heritage now sits in a book dusty in the corner of our homes, unopened, our history lies there. We bask in the warmth of greatness of past with very little contribution in our own lives, nobody wants to be uncomfortable, whether that's because of a job, or because we are just afraid now to stick out.

It is a shame that the time this title was appropriate, Singhs were defending India from jungles, with no homes with no comforts they were fighting for righteousness sacrificing everything. And opposite today, well to do Sikhs sacrifice nothing, we cant even sacrifice our own egos, we want to look modern, to fit in , to figure out anyway to assimilate into societies which really don't even hold a candle to the brightness of our history.

We follow our own brand of Sikhi, comfort Sikhi when things are not the way we like them its easily adjustable, easily we can move tenants, we can move gurbani being well educated to accommodate our own lifestyles. We really don't know what Sikhi is, today all tenants of this faith are sitting on the street, and there was a time when someone was sawed in half, cut limb by limb for things we give up on a whim.

A heritage forgotten is a heritage lost. And this is the result; a fake Singh is Kinng with snoop doggy dog wearing dastaar. And we are happy that wow we get this exposure. What of those who gave their lives, sacrificed their children who were cut piece by piece and they had only one line in their hearts, a thankfulness of Sikhism. When have we thanked god for being brought up in a Sikh family, with this rich tradition, probably never.

What a joke this is, what a mockery it is of what a Singh really should be. A Singh is someone who is in control of their destiny, who will not shake their ideals, and will uphold to death not only their rights but the rights of others, even if it means they will be joked about for saving hindu women at 12 o clock, they did it. Think about these details and one will have no thoughts of the selflessness of these individuals who having no problems of their own took on other ppls problems, having no homes of their own, saved other's homes.

These Singhs travelled at night, in the morning the only evidence being the hoof marks of their horses, it is said at that time women of the pinds which were protected by these unsung heros would come out and touch these tracks and pray that there sons be as brave as those who travelled the night.

There was no Batman or Superman, there were only those Khalsa's who defended the honor of those who had no other hope. We are part of that legacy, what will the future generations say about us? That the heros of the past have turned to drinking to cut hair to doing whatever seemed right for their on enjoyment, forgetting what a rich and one of a kind history they had.

The world is full of great ppl, but I challenge anyone to show me a community that has been through the adversity that Sikhs have, at one time being wiped out by 50% of their population. (That would mean even more than the holocaust for Jews by percentage). Within a year after that time frame they were the rulers of Punjab, after being cut down they only grew, after being killed they only increased. What resilience they had, today for the cheapest things for the things that have no value, we sacrifice, our priceless gifts, our priceless inheritance from those souls just vanishes into thin air.

It is true, today we are only good enough for a movie title Singh is Kinng, otherwise there is no proof of that.

Sikh-80 Ji

Thanks for posting an analysis of a community that went through the hardest times in the History of India and showed the world that with ethics and morality a unique identity could be well kept and oppression could turn it only into a community of warriors destined to rule eventually. It comes down to the leaders, unfortunately ours have chosen a path of duality and are stooped to that level where sell off becomes a goal of life. Blaming Bollywood is an emotional outburst; integrity is built through the efforts of leaders and parenthood.
May I ask if you don’t mind, what personally you have been doing in this regard since you have felt it so badly but very honestly? Exemplary living may pay off slowly if not fast.

jonathan · #3 (**permalink**) 19-Dec-2008, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pk70

Sikh-80 Ji

Thanks for posting an analysis of a community that went through the hardest times in the History of India and showed the world that with ethics and morality a unique identity could be well kept and oppression could turn it only into a community of warriors destined to rule eventually. It comes down to the leaders, unfortunately ours have chosen a path of duality and are stooped to that level where sell off becomes a goal of life. Blaming Bollywood is an emotional outburst; integrity is built through the efforts of leaders and parenthood.
May I ask if you don’t mind, what personally you have been doing in this regard since you have felt it so badly but very honestly? Exemplary living may pay off slowly if not fast.

as for this movie we must not forget the paganism that prevails Bollywood.
Sikhism is not pagan like the Hinduism of India.
We believe in one devine being that can not be defined into any physical terms.
Praise the holy path of Sikhism.

jonathan · #4 (**permalink**) 19-Dec-2008, 06:09 AM

Long live the fighters of Sikhism...

pk70 · #5 (**permalink**) 19-Dec-2008, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jonathan

as for this movie we must not forget the paganism that prevails Bollywood.
Sikhism is not pagan like the Hinduism of India.
We believe in one devine being that can not be defined into any physical terms.
Praise the holy path of Sikhism.

Jonathan Ji
Blaming on bollywood is not a way of seeking the truth of downfall of Sikhism that was once at peak of all possible ethics and morality and was showing faith in only one Pervading Lord. What you see in Bollywood, I have seen in Punjab all over during my visit to India last year. Besides, Guru Ghar money is being looted and used for selfish goals. Sikhs have lost touch of clear cut message of Guru NanakGobind Singh ji. Before Bollywood became influential, in the villages of Punjab, worshiping of graves, ancestors, Sharadh and other Hindu Religious practices were already in practice. How and why? The parents, who paid attention towards the uniqueness and quality of Sikhism, saved their generation from becoming affected from outside influences. If it exists today in its purity, it is because of those parents. If such parents didn’t perform that positive role, by now, all would have blended into various sectarian cults which are booming day and night in Punjab and through out India. Accept it or stay in denial, it is the parenthood and the leaders who can make difference. We have lost good people and we are not able to know how to fight except indulging in blaming game or shouting none sense slogans. Attacks from all sides have affected its followers. Religion survives on leader’s exemplary living and efforts to counter the attacks coming from all sides. Supported of Paganism are more aware of their goal than we Sikh are.

jonathan · #6 (**permalink**) 19-Dec-2008, 07:06 AM

thank you so much for you reply
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I am just now starting out on my spiritual path of Sikh Knowledge and understanding.
there is a Sikh here in sc who owns a truckstop.
he has a beautiful wife. she could be in the movies

kilemba · #7 (**permalink**) 19-Dec-2008, 10:24 AM

Raj Karegha Khalsa , the isue is what are we going to do about it, do we let non-sikhs dictate what is good for us? We know it within our hearts and minds that we should Jap Naam and dont let others dictate us.
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We have always known we are Kings long before this bollywood debacle. Let us show it to the world that we are worthy of this title .

jonathan · #8 (**permalink**) 19-Dec-2008, 10:38 AM

Your so right my friend
I was just taliking to a good sikh friend of mind who believes we must tone down all the indulgences of all night orgies and hempsmoking

pk70 · #9 (**permalink**) 19-Dec-2008, 11:22 AM

Raj Krega Khalsa” When this slogan was given, the real khalsa, took it seriously not only to rule but to keep a word given to Guru to be highest in morality and ethics even during war times; those were the real khalsa who gave a hell to the invaders while being literally homeless and kept their word given to Guru, result was this that they became rulers from warriors. As long as they kept their word given to Guru they stayed in power.
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Every one today loves to boast to be khalsa, I wonder if they ever stand before Guru and analyze if really they represent Guru Ji because Guru not only gave them high morality and ethics but also intellectual boost that is very much needed to rule. Punjab has been seized morally and ethically, intellectuals are bought, young men who are ready to do any thing are being demoralized by these so called Sikh leaders. Threats were never used as a weapon by Guru’s Khalsa, it was their unparallel bravery and ready to sacrifice everything that changed the course of history. I just do not believe in boasting.