Concentration

Notay · #1 (**permalink**) 20-Oct-2008, 17:30 PM

hi when i get up in the morning to do my naam simran in the amrit vela time and begin i tend to lose my concentration and my mind ends up wandering into the coming days activities and other stuff. Is there any way in which i can keep my concentration just focused on waheguru? its really annoying.
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it also occurs during rehraas, i am not sure if its to do with the fact that i can recite my rehraas of by heart (or some of it) and the same for naam simran, that my mind is capable of thinking about other things? anyone else experienced this?
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Narayanjot Kaur · #2 (**permalink**) 20-Oct-2008, 18:52 PM

Notay,

Just go with the flow. It happens to everyone, not just you. With time this problem wears off because the Bani of the Guru is more interesting than what is going to happen at work. Accept my comment with seriousness as well as a touch of humor. It is true. Your simran and nit nem should be a relaxing process. So relax and do not worry.

Sinner1 · #3 (**permalink**) 20-Oct-2008, 20:27 PM

SATSHRIAKAL..
Acc. to me just relax and whenerver your mind gets distracted do not think that you have lost your concentration or anything else just continue doing simran.Just focus on your simran..First few weeks you will face difficuilty but after then you will find progress and your mind will be distracted less.And also do ARDAS.Also before doing simran do mool mantra 108 times as it helps in concentration.As you are at initial stage do simran verbally.
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Also do seva and indulge less in social activities.
Everyone faces this type of problem and i personally seek this soluton..Hope it helped you.

Notay · #4 (**permalink**) 28-Oct-2008, 21:40 PM

[quote=Sinner;88196]SATSHRIAKAL..
Also before doing simran do mool mantra 108 times as it helps in concentration.As you are at initial stage do simran verbally.
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hi sorry for the late reply ive been busy. you say do the mool mantra 108 times, why exactly 108 times? surely if i was counting then wouldnt i been concentrating counting rather than concentrating on the guru?
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also i sometimes find it really hard to get up in the middle of the night when my 'amrit vela' alarm goes off and hence nod back to sleep. but when i do get up my day does go a whole lot better i have noticed. is anything that i can do to make sure that i get up and not just nod back to sleep? thanks

Narayanjot Kaur · #5 (**permalink**) 28-Oct-2008, 21:42 PM

Notay ji

Did the idea of 108 times come from Gurbani? I will check on that. I think not. I know that in some panths and sects of Sikhism the number of times for a mantra or a kriya is mentioned and one increases incrementally -- 6, 11, 23, I think the next one is 56, and so forth -- I am not an expert on this. But the time of simran is a very individual thing and depth of simran is more important according to other teachers.

Sinner1 · #6 (**permalink**) 29-Oct-2008, 11:52 AM

no...The idea of doing mool antra 108 do not come from gurbani(i think so)...
I want to say that there is a mala which has 108 beads...Thats why i have said to do mool mantra 108 times..not counting but on beads.....I also know that there are several malas with different number of beads...I have choosen 108 times because by reciting more mool mantra your mind will become more relax and will less wander...
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And if anyone find it difficuilt to do he/she can do it as many number of times as they like... It is not necesary to do 108 times....I have said it because someone told it to me and it helped me alot....

Narayanjot Kaur · #7 (**permalink**) 29-Oct-2008, 18:59 PM

Sinner ji

Thanks for explaining about the mala. Do you have any information about the history of the mala? When did it first come into use? Things like that. Why does it have 108 beads. This is all very interesting.

Notay · #8 (**permalink**) 29-Oct-2008, 19:10 PM

hi thanks for your replies they are very helpful.

i believe that a possible reason why my mind never stays focused on naam simran and mool mantra is possibly due to the fact that i know my mool mantra/simran off by heart and hence my mind requires less of a focus than if it didn't - do you get what i mean? also the same occurs during rehraas sahib, i know a lot of the parts of that and hence the same happens there.
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does this occur to you? and why is this?

Sinner1 · #9 (**permalink**) 29-Oct-2008, 22:28 PM

the mala is being used from very ancient times...I think that u will not find any history about it but u can find the reason for specific number of beads....i myself don't know much...