Hair and General Sikh Philosophy Study

Archived_Member4 · #31 (**permalink**) 31-Aug-2008, 03:32 AM

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can they be Sikh despite the fact that they have no hair?

does hair matter?
no...lets go beyond petty physical fetishes

cheers

Another thing i don’t have a fetish for keeping hair. if I did i would groom it in a certain way. The ones who have a fetish for hair are the ones who groom it in a certain way to look a certain way. Bottom line the ones who keep it as God intended have no fetish for they are the ones who do not bother to change it. The ones who groom are the ones with the fetishes.

Narayanjot Kaur · #32 (**permalink**) 31-Aug-2008, 19:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Singh

This is taking what I am saying out of context and a real great way to make some one look real stupid. You have done a great job of that and I applaud you on that for this great job and you have succeeded in doing so. everything in this world matters and i see you have taken it lightly because you do not like what Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji has said about keeping hair. Hair is not just needed physically but spiritually as well. Stand for what you believe in and don’t hide behind these kinds of remarks. I have already spoke on this issue where the person has no hair because God intended the person to be that way.

Singhbj ji

You seem to say that hair is needed for spirituality. And furthermore you seem to say that God intended some people to be bald -- to have no hair or very little hair. Does this mean that God is deliberately limiting the spirituality of some people by making them bald or partially bald?

Archived_Member4 · #33 (**permalink**) 31-Aug-2008, 22:16 PM

aad ji

Hair is a factor that contributes to spirituality and Sikhs are advised to keep it. And to answer your second question aad ji look at it this way if God is limiting the spirituality of the ones that are bald then he also is limiting or completely cutting off the people from achieving oneness with him for the ones that are born mentally and/or physically challenged. What God chooses to do is always true and if you are born with a full head of hair accept it if not accept that as well. The quicker you realize the truth in you the faster you will realize God in you. The human body is a well oiled machine made with all the components needed to attain God. Each component does its own part in attaining God. Connect all components as one and the Truth will be revealed.

Sinister · #34 (**permalink**) 01-Sep-2008, 00:17 AM

Apologies that this is off-topic but it is essential to my point:

A list of things that god “endows” us with… yet sometimes need modification for our benefit/survival/pleasure

-Wisdom teeth
-Appendix
-Palatine tonsils
-Fingernails/Toe nails
-Benign tumors
-A Melanocytic Nevus
-Umbilical Cord
-Damaged organs... (transplant surgeries)
-Irregular Heartbeats...(Pace makers)
-Artifiscial limbs ...(artifiscial hair?)
-etc etc

Hair is not the only things we cut/pull-out or add to our so called “natural bodies”!

Can Sikhs wear braces on their teeth? What are the views on aesthetic alterations performed on the body?

are their benefits to cutting your hair?
should we challenge preferences/customs/cultures that do cut hair...should we look down upon them?...perhaps a holy war about hair would settle this?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/22759-hair-and-general-sikh-philosophy-study.html

Does it matter?
NO!
What matters? I dunno…perhaps… Uncertainty followed by humility?

Narayanjot Kaur · #35 (**permalink**) 01-Sep-2008, 00:19 AM

Singh ji

You are tap-dancing around the question that I asked you. Is God placing a limitation on those who are bald or whose hair is thinning -- for genetic reasons, because of illness or poor diet, or because they have a nervous condition that contributes to loss of hair, etc.?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22759

We already know that Gurbani says that even those who are mentally challenged can be saved by chanting the Shabad Guru. Do not confuse matters by throwing in an opinion regarding physical limitations and so forth.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22759

I would like a straight answer so that I can evaluate it. So too a lot of other forum members.

Sinister · #36 (**permalink**) 01-Sep-2008, 00:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Singh

The ones who groom are the ones with the fetishes.

what do you do with your kanga if don't groom yourself with it?

aad ji i dont think this is "singhbj" its another forum member "singh".

Narayanjot Kaur · #37 (**permalink**) 01-Sep-2008, 00:35 AM

Sinister ji

Yes, you are right. I meant to say Singh ji not Singhbj. But when I tried to edit the comment I lost my internet connection and just now have it back.

Singhbj ji-- please, please, please accept my humble apologies.

AND Singh ji, please answer my question above!

Archived_Member4 · #38 (**permalink**) 01-Sep-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinister

Apologies that this is off-topic but it is essential to my point:

A list of things that god “endows” us with… yet sometimes need modification for our benefit/survival/pleasure

-Wisdom teeth
-Appendix
-Palatine tonsils
-Fingernails/Toe nails
-Benign tumors
-A Melanocytic Nevus
-Umbilical Cord
-Damaged organs... (transplant surgeries)
-Irregular Heartbeats...(Pace makers)
-Artifiscial limbs ...(artifiscial hair?)
-etc etc

Hair is not the only things we cut/pull-out or add to our so called “natural bodies”!

Can Sikhs wear braces on their teeth? What are the views on aesthetic alterations performed on the body?

are their benefits to cutting your hair?
should we challenge preferences/customs/cultures that do cut hair...should we look down upon them?...perhaps a holy war about hair would settle this?

Does it matter?
NO!
What matters? I dunno…perhaps… Uncertainty followed by humility?

If someone is medically ill and has to remove the hair go right ahead, but otherwise you are going against Guru ji's Hukam. Also if you are goin to die if you don't cut your hair because its the lastest fashion then go right ahead you'll fit in just fine

Archived_Member4 · #39 (**permalink**) 01-Sep-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

Singh ji

You are tap-dancing around the question that I asked you. Is God placing a limitation on those who are bald or whose hair is thinning -- for genetic reasons, because of illness or poor diet, or because they have a nervous condition that contributes to loss of hair, etc.?

We already know that Gurbani says that even those who are mentally challenged can be saved by chanting the Shabad Guru. Do not confuse matters by throwing in an opinion regarding physical limitations and so forth.

I would like a straight answer so that I can evaluate it. So too a lot of other forum members.

Not avoiding the question just will not answer something that is not my decision. God does not limit anyone from anything the human does that by him/herself.

Archived_Member4 · #40 (**permalink**) 01-Sep-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinister

what do you do with your kanga if don't groom yourself with it?

aad ji i dont think this is "singhbj" its another forum member "singh".

Groom as in pluck, shave, cut, wax, laser treatment the hair off. All these methods are done directly to remove the hair for personal needs such as 'Society doesn't accpet hair on certain places. Really pathetic and narrow minded people.