What kind of Movies should be made on Sikhism?

Rajwinder · #1 (**permalink**) 13-Aug-2008, 06:52 AM

I saw some punjabi movies in recent times and wondering what kind of movies should actauly be made on sikhs ?
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1. Harbhajan Maan style :

Pros :
Atleast people started watching cultural movies having villages etc.
Some say he show truth about sikhs abroad and love for punjab

Cons :
Clean shaven hero + pure punjabi speaking + hot girls + Scenic Abroad views : who will not want this ?? so punjabi youth follows

2. Sing is king style :

Pros :
High budget + Big frame + Large audience + Bollywood with Turban
Hot songs : Projecting sardars as kings ( In some scenes atleast )

Cons :

Most of the scenes are showing sardars as pretty funny and speaking stupiditly

3. Religious Movies :

Showing our guru's and they sacrifices

Pros :
No doubt it shows people like me where we cam from ?
Catalyst for feelings and respect towards sikhism

Cons :
Not that big audince

4. Topics like 84 Riots :

Pros :
Refresh memories of people of what happened.

Cons :
Again not big audience
Sensor board dont want complete thing to be shown.

So wondering what kind of movies should be made on sikhs ? Or should movies be made on sikhs ?

pk70 · #2 (**permalink**) 13-Aug-2008, 07:12 AM

Movies on day to day problems that affect morality and virtuous way of life. No need to stress on Sikhism but on characters that come from this faith, who are more settled in wide culture and see how the society can be served better way. When a person rises above the crowd, what inspired him/her to become that one, it becomes talk of the town. Sikhi is not limited only to all facets you have explained above. Today, may be we don't need a hero, may be a class as hero.

dalsingh · #3 (**permalink**) 13-Aug-2008, 17:45 PM

I like pk70's idea.

Also we could have epic style movies on Sikh history. There are lots of traditions that would be well suited to movies ala 300/Braveheart style. These should be made Hollywood style and not Bollywood style which would totally ruin the vibe by having characters burst into songs.
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The films should honestly depict things like Banda Singh's rebellion, the Anglo-Sikh wars, Maharajah Ranjit Singh. The movies could be vehicles to explore important Sikh themes like bravery, the development of the panth, the politics of the time. These would serve as tools to impart historical knowledge to Sikhs and nonSikhs.

We have a long way to go for this. My own experience of Panjabi movies is not promising. The many films made in the 80s were terribly cheap and poorly made, hinging on casteism to a large degree. What we need is a visionary who can present Sikh themes in a modern idiom that allow all who watch to relate. Movies about ancient Spartans and the Scottish rebellion can smash the box offices, as well as films with no English dialogue (i.e. Apocylipto amd the other Mel Gibson film about Jesus)
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Getting returns on the large investemnt required to do this justice as well as marketing and appealing to a wider SIkh audience is the crux of the matter here.

singhbj · #4 (**permalink**) 13-Aug-2008, 18:30 PM

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh
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Rajwinder ji,

You have divided the movies into different categories similarly the viewers too have to be categoriesed.

Professional film maker has to choose & keep in mind the target (market segment or viewers) in order to break even and make a profit.
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Making a documentary, art, regional and amateur film is completely different from main stream cinema.

For example "Kambdi kalai" was a good movie. Check out the link below

Noor Nissan Films

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

BhagatSingh · #5 (**permalink**) 14-Aug-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajwinder

I saw some punjabi movies in recent times and wondering what kind of movies should actauly be made on sikhs ?

1. Harbhajan Maan style :

Pros :
Atleast people started watching cultural movies having villages etc.
Some say he show truth about sikhs abroad and love for punjab

Cons :
Clean shaven hero + pure punjabi speaking + hot girls + Scenic Abroad views : who will not want this ?? so punjabi youth follows

2. Sing is king style :

Pros :
High budget + Big frame + Large audience + Bollywood with Turban
Hot songs : Projecting sardars as kings ( In some scenes atleast )

Cons :

Most of the scenes are showing sardars as pretty funny and speaking stupiditly

3. Religious Movies :

Showing our guru's and they sacrifices

Pros :
No doubt it shows people like me where we cam from ?
Catalyst for feelings and respect towards sikhism

Cons :
Not that big audince

4. Topics like 84 Riots :

Pros :
Refresh memories of people of what happened.

Cons :
Again not big audience
Sensor board dont want complete thing to be shown.

So wondering what kind of movies should be made on sikhs ? Or should movies be made on sikhs ?

movies

- having villages etc.
-Projecting sardars as kings
-Showing our guru's and they sacrifices
-Refreshing memories of people of what happened [in 1984]

u sorta answered ur own question there.

took all the pros and combined them..

BhagatSingh · #6 (**permalink**) 14-Aug-2008, 11:23 AM

I would love a film on one of my characters "Sarbloh" Sarbloh Wallpaper by ~prince911 on deviantART
-He is a superhero (ting ting ting)
-whose been through 1984 (ting ting ting) and 9/11 (ting ting ting)
-in full sikhi saroop (ting ting ting)
-king of the ring (where he earns his money, now) (ting ting ting)
-throw him in a village (at some point of his life) and BANG!! PERFECT sikh movie!

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just hope that day will come when someone makes a movie on him...

BhagatSingh · #7 (**permalink**) 14-Aug-2008, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalsingh

I like pk70's idea.

Also we could have epic style movies on Sikh history. There are lots of traditions that would be well suited to movies ala 300/Braveheart style. These should be made Hollywood style and not Bollywood style which would totally ruin the vibe by having characters burst into songs.

The films should honestly depict things like Banda Singh's rebellion, the Anglo-Sikh wars, Maharajah Ranjit Singh. The movies could be vehicles to explore important Sikh themes like bravery, the development of the panth, the politics of the time. These would serve as tools to impart historical knowledge to Sikhs and nonSikhs.

We have a long way to go for this. My own experience of Panjabi movies is not promising. The many films made in the 80s were terribly cheap and poorly made, hinging on casteism to a large degree. What we need is a visionary who can present Sikh themes in a modern idiom that allow all who watch to relate. Movies about ancient Spartans and the Scottish rebellion can smash the box offices, as well as films with no English dialogue (i.e. Apocylipto amd the other Mel Gibson film about Jesus)

Getting returns on the large investemnt required to do this justice as well as marketing and appealing to a wider SIkh audience is the crux of the matter here.

Oh man!! Imagine 300 sikhs!!

"when one stood against sava lakh"
"tonight we dine together in langar"

"THIS IS KHALSA!!!"

of course without all the racism and discrimination... and mosnters...

dalsingh · #8 (**permalink**) 14-Aug-2008, 15:10 PM

300!!!
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Come on. Guys fighting drunk war elephants single handedly. 30 men facing an Afghan horde of 30 thousand in Amritsar. Managing to lop of the head of a stubborn enemy who has taken over and defiled you holiest shrine - and escape!
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Dude, Sikh films are just begging to be made. One day soon.

BhagatSingh · #9 (**permalink**) 14-Aug-2008, 23:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalsingh

300!!!

Come on. Guys fighting drunk war elephants single handedly. 30 men facing an Afghan horde of 30 thousand in Amritsar. Managing to lop of the head of a stubborn enemy who has taken over and defiled you holiest shrine - and escape!

Dude, Sikh films are just begging to be made. One day soon.

ooh, "Managing to lop of the head of a stubborn enemy who has taken over and defiled you holiest shrine - and escape!"? who was this? definitely a good subject for a painting.

have you read the 300 graphic novel?

If not movies then why not graphic novels/comics? anyone up for it?