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07-Mar-2008, 05:56 AM
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Hello everyone,
I am Sikh student doing my masters here in USA. I am 23 years old and keep uncut beard, wear a turban and belong to a good family.
However I would like to change that and would like to cut my hair - I have though a lot about it and it’s what I want to do.
The issue that I am facing is I have come from India on student visa (F1) and all my photo ID’s have me wearing a turban in them (this includes my passport, visa, driver’s license etc) Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/20360-advice-for-making-a-change-sikhism.html
Hence, I would like to know if there is any way I can get this thing sorted out. Because if I do change my appearance, I would look different from the pictures in my photo ID’s.
Regarding my parents, I respect them a lot and I do value their opinion – however, the motive of my post is to find options I have to make this transformation.
I don’t know anyone who has done this before and I don’t know whom to ask regarding this issue, hence my reason for posting it online. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360
It has been very uncomfortable for me to write this post and it may not sound appropriate.
I hope my post is not taken in any offensive way. I seriously want to change and it’s what I want to do. I have nothing against it – it’s just something I have been wanting to do for a very long time and I don’t think I am being fair to myself by holding myself down.
Please let me know your opinions and any possible options
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07-Mar-2008, 11:39 AM
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have you considered contacting the consulate, DMV, and other agencies that issued your documents and asking them?
asking sikhs about how to handle the mundane issues surrounding cutting your kes is bound to cause people to get emotional. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360
for what it's worth, i started wearing a turban about a year ago. my documents show me in a short hairstyle, no turban. no one has ever made a comment or caused any problem for me, even though i look much different now than i did in the photos. i suppose the reverse would also be true.  |
07-Mar-2008, 15:03 PM
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May be it helps
Dear friend,
I am 84 riot victim. I have almost lost most of my close relatives. I have never thought of that you are thinking of. It is a transitory phase of life when you are young and are bothered about your physical appearance.
But does it matter?
In few years this youth will fade away. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360
I am proud to be a sikh and would die that way.
You should also feel that you are lucky being a sikh. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360
Waheguru mehar kare. |
07-Mar-2008, 20:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 4629  Hello everyone,
I am Sikh student doing my masters here in USA. I am 23 years old and keep uncut beard, wear a turban and belong to a good family.
However I would like to change that and would like to cut my hair - I have though a lot about it and it’s what I want to do.
The issue that I am facing is I have come from India on student visa (F1) and all my photo ID’s have me wearing a turban in them (this includes my passport, visa, driver’s license etc)
Hence, I would like to know if there is any way I can get this thing sorted out. Because if I do change my appearance, I would look different from the pictures in my photo ID’s.
Regarding my parents, I respect them a lot and I do value their opinion – however, the motive of my post is to find options I have to make this transformation.
I don’t know anyone who has done this before and I don’t know whom to ask regarding this issue, hence my reason for posting it online.
It has been very uncomfortable for me to write this post and it may not sound appropriate.
I hope my post is not taken in any offensive way. I seriously want to change and it’s what I want to do. I have nothing against it – it’s just something I have been wanting to do for a very long time and I don’t think I am being fair to myself by holding myself down.
Please let me know your opinions and any possible options
Sincerely, |
Dear Gursikh ji
I ,on a visit to punjab, saw many young men lost their Sikh identity and I felt very sad to see that. You survived all avalanch of media that advocates the success with" be clean shaven and rise" fake slogan and terrible influence of Sants and Babas; now why to sacrifice that identity adored till now. I have been in U S A for almost 20 years, I havent faced any problem save for a few comments here and there. Read Gurbani, get strength, study as hard as you can and rise to your goal with AkaalPurkh's grace while in tuned to Satguru bachan. Nothing can stop you to become you want to be. Please dont do it.
Wish you a successful life in U.S. May Wageguru be with you. Remember small Sahibzadas,you will keep you going. Guru guidance will elevate you, believe me.  |
07-Mar-2008, 20:38 PM
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4629 ji
legally you donot need to get another passport BUT to avoid complications you would HAVE to if you want to go ahead with your decision. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360
you would have to apply to consulate in NY for a new passport, as your old passport would still be there with you- i donot think you need another trip to USCIS.
but to bring upa sensitive isue is a bit of...ahem....on a sikh board. in times of internet access, you might like to visit various agency websites or even call them to know procedures. |
08-Mar-2008, 00:05 AM
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4629
amarsanghera ji and jasleen ji make a good point. You are going to be lectured about your decision. It is a touchy subject.
G o to the Office of International Students or whatever department at your university oversees the visas and federal laws for foreign students. Start there because they will steer you in the right direction, and they have to give accurate answers or will be in trouble with the Federal government. It will cut down on the wild goose chase you might have if you go to a government agency and just happen to encounter a clerk who doesn't really know what is what and gives wrong answers. Yes government officials don't always know what is what.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360
And now my turn to lecture just a tiny bit -- I am reading a book -- East of Indus -- a biography by a Punjab man who grew up as a Jat farmer and became a research physicist in the US - fascinating. He relates that the decision to keep hair in the Punjab a half a century ago was even then a problem for young men. Who cut hair. Who trimmed beards. What the author tells from his own life is that many of these men when they got older went back to keeping hair and tying dastar. So don't think of yourself in a fixed way. Time will tell. |
08-Mar-2008, 14:39 PM
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Since You've Already Made Up Your Mind (might Have Done It By Now) So There's No Point Of Telling You What Treasure You Are Going To Loose... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360 i Wonder... What Will Be Your Identity Then?Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360
...but Whenever You Realize Do Correct Your Mistake My Friend, Then All Spn Sangat Will Help You waheguru Tuhanu Samat Bakhshe !! |
10-Mar-2008, 03:54 AM
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<< i Wonder... What Will Be Your Identity Then?>>Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=20360 what is "it" now? why do we need identity? is it not ego? | 
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