Regarding Sikh Girls

kds1980 · #71 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jasleen_kaur

i see. so because some feminists trash talk men, that makes it ok for SIKH men to hate SIKH women?

sorry, i don't buy into that logic. if these guys are actually sikh, they won't have such an attitude.

That was the opinion of 1 sikh man not the entire and i never supported that comment

Huck_Finn · #72 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 07:57 AM

<There is hardly any chance that a good sikh girl will date and search mariage partner on its own.Practising sikh girls just accept arrange and those who date are westernised so Finding a a practising sikh girl on its own is very difficuilt
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409
in dating culture because high percentage of chance is they will prefer bollywood types not sardars.>>

why do you think dating is good for "good" sikh guys and not for "good" sikh girls?

please change your mental paradigms or keep wallowing in the feeling that girls ignore guys with turbans

these statements are exactly the reason that girls get ticked off by guys who profess the holier than thou attitude.

if ur in the game, play by the rules....its simple as that

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gimme a break.

you just proved yourself that all the riling you have been doing against girls with cut hair is wrong ...

so much for 8 pages of debate....!!!!!!!

kds1980 · #73 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 11:18 AM

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why do you think dating is good for "good" sikh guys and not for "good" sikh girls?

please change your mental paradigms or keep wallowing in the feeling that girls ignore guys with turbans

these statements are exactly the reason that girls get ticked off by guys who profess the holier than thou attitude.

if ur in the game, play by the rules....its simple as that

Amar i always thought that you as person with lot of knowledge but now I think I have to change my mind Nowhere I said that whether dating is good or bad for anyone.Just telling you
what's happening in society.Good sikh girls don't date its a fact neither their parents allow them.

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gimme a break.

you just proved yourself that all the riling you have been doing against girls with cut hair is wrong ...

so much for 8 pages of debate....!!!!!!!

Just re read the entire debate not even a single word is said against the girls with cut hair
I don't know what you are reading.Just supported the original poster and said that any girl who discriminate solely on the basis sikh swaroop has no right to call herself sikh.whether she cuts her hair or not

Huck_Finn · #74 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 12:57 PM

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exactly this sentence shows that you are putting your opinions to rate someone GOOD or BAD
because if Good sikh girls donot date = bad sikh girls date..
huh
wonderful..
and then you go on to feel sorry that guys just can't get to date sikh girls..
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409
doublespeak!!
i do understand your judging me to be of limited knowledge, as i can see from your judging girls' morality and character just based on if they date or not... amazing !!!
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make up ur mind dear, your sentence above just proves one point
pagg = sikh
in another post you say its not just pagg = sikh
in one post you say, pagg guys can't get girls, in another post you say that you have seen a lot of pagg guys with girls who cut hair...

so you yourself prove that issue is maybe not pagg
but something else which comes along with pagg

kds1980 · #75 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 14:06 PM

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exactly this sentence shows that you are putting your opinions to rate someone GOOD or BAD
because if Good sikh girls donot date = bad sikh girls date..
huh
wonderful..
and then you go on to feel sorry that guys just can't get to date sikh girls..
doublespeak!!

From the point of view of religion a person is called good if he/she is practising.You cannot call a person good sikh if he/she drinks alchol or smoke.so good sikh gir means one who is somewhat practicing sikh religion.Also It is well known fact that majority of girls who date hide it from their parents if the family is not too liberalised.If they are such a good sikh girls then they should have the guts to tell their parents about their boyfriends.

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make up ur mind dear, your sentence above just proves one point
pagg = sikh
in another post you say its not just pagg = sikh
in one post you say, pagg guys can't get girls, in another post you say that you have seen a lot of pagg guys with girls who cut hair...

so you yourself prove that issue is maybe not pagg
but something else which comes along with pagg

There is something in this world called chance , destiny.If you would have read the blogspot that i posted then may be you have better understanding of this problem.The fact is some people pointed out that ratio pagg wearing men are higher than sikh women ready to accept turban wearing men.So obviously plenty will find and some will remain.This problem of sikh men is standard issue on all sikh sites.Just search sikhnet and you will find that over and over again this problem is bought up by sikh man.

also its not just me who is saying this just read the views of some scholars in articles which i posted

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http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-s...om-punjab.html
Dr. Rajesh Gill, a sociologist at Panjab University, whose 18-year-old son sports a turban, speaks for many Sikh parents when she says, "A turban is a Sikh's pride, and I don't want my son to shear his hair once he becomes more independent".

Cutting one's hair is not new among Sikhs, but the number of turban-less, clean-shaven Sikhs has grown astronomically in the last two decades. "Thanks to the onslaught of satellite TV, there's a drive towards mainstreaming", says Gill, "Women aspire to marry men who look like Bollywood stars, and men aspire to look like the men these women want. 'The look', unfortunately, doesn't include a turban".

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http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/essays...h-sikhism.html

In this sample, all thirty-three Sikh families clearly indicate their caste identity, i.e. Jat Sikh family, Ramgarhia Sikh family or Khatri Sikh family etc. Out of thirty-three Sikh families, seventeen seek clean-shaven spouses for their children, who are born and educated in Britain. Within this group of seventeen Sikh families, thirteen want clean-shaven boys for their girls while four families are looking for suitable spouses for their clean-shaven sons. A significant change from the 1960's emerging from the study of these advertisements is that almost all the boys and girls have been born and educated in Britain and hold professional jobs. Analysis of the matrimonial advertisements demonstrates the significance of caste for the Sikhs when it comes to the question of choosing spouses for their children. Another important factor emerging from this analysis is the growing preference among Sikh girls for clean-shaven boys. Moreover, only one out of thirty-three Sikh families states that their son wears a turban; it suggests that the common presumption about a male Sikh having un-shorn hair is losing its universal appeal within the Sikh diaspora.

satwant · #76 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 17:05 PM

The fact is that we must admit that the reality is before us. Sad but true. But do we need to argue amongst ourselves that who is right and who is wrong in his belief. What we should do is think collectively as to how we can encourage the younger brother and sister of ours to love the religion and why keep the hair is the in thing. Look at the bollywood actress. They have long hair and yet the Sikh girls in reality want to have short hair. The actors who portray the Sikhs in the movies do make an attempt to wear turban and yet the Sikh boys in Punjab all cut their hair.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409

All the music videos that emerge from punjab have Sikh boys who have short hair. I believe that the Sikhs in punjab dont believe that it is cool for a Pagri boy to be dating and dancing with a drop dead gorgeous punjabi girl who has long silky hair. Only a clean shaven boy can do it. Can we not change this perception?

This perception must be made right in Punjab. Ensure that the Sikh boys who are shown in the videos all have turban and long hair and the females have long hair with Chuni covering their head. The media is the most powerful weapon when it comes to changing mindsets and we all know it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409

All Punjabi movies do not show the main actors with turban and long hair. Why? It baffles me.

Let stop arguing about who is right and wrong. It will take another century to figure out the answer and by that time, the religion may have faded away. Let's us start collectively right now to correct that perception and make constructive suggestions that will keep our faith on track.

Satwant

kds1980 · #77 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 17:10 PM

Satwant ji a great reply I totally agree with you

Archived_Member1 · #78 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2008, 23:13 PM

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Originally Posted by satwant

All Punjabi movies do not show the main actors with turban and long hair. Why? It baffles me.

worse than that, the VILLAINS are shown with open beards and turbans!

dalsingh · #79 (**permalink**) 30-Jan-2008, 01:45 AM

I don't know. I had a good friend with a turban and he had girls all over him (not encouraging that but please get my point).

I think that physical health, style and confidence play a large part in attracting girls.

Another plain fact we have to accept is that some people are better looking than others and this cannot be "hidden" under a turban and beard. If a bunda is a sohna sunukha gubroo with confidence and style I don't think a turban is any obstacle like is being suggested.

Also (a big point in my eyes), in the past Singhs were known to be brave robe wallay bundhay. Lets face facts: those Singhs in the 1700s took on powerful empires/armies and whooped their backsides. What could be more impressive in a bloke?

Compare that with many Singhs today who are largely conservatives. The Singhs of old were rebel exciting warriors with big ambitions. I imagine that would make them at least objects of curiosity for females.

If the evolutionary hypothesis is true and females innately seek security for themselves and potential offspring, then those types of guys would be appealing. How many guys today compare to them (I mean in and OUT of the Sikh community).

kds1980 · #80 (**permalink**) 30-Jan-2008, 01:56 AM

does your friend have uncut beard