Regarding Sikh Girls

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Amar ji, I believe I do know a Sikh girl, it's Aad ji!
Aad Ji I forgot to ask, what is this "mindless zombie" episode in your life?

You are a Sikh girl and this topic is Regarding Sikh Girls so I believe I am not going off topic, when I ask this.

Bhagat ji

So once again I smile reading your comments. However, I will never be a girl again -- alas I am almost a crone. But smile nonetheless.

The mindless zombie story can't be told in a pubic forum because feelings and privacy of individuals would be hurt -- even if they never read this which they probably never will. However you know within Sikhi there is the theory and the reality of making choices that are directed by Waheguru in the larger sense. This story -- well some people I know knuckled under some sangat politics. They did some things that originally they objected to because it was, in their view, necessary to submit to God's will and be humble. God had nothing to do with it. It was politics.

As a convert, this is an area that puzzles me about Sikhi. I think there is a difference between submitting to God and submitting to a crazy idea. Also a difference between being humble and allowing others to treat you in a rude and careless way. And also a difference between being "in ego" and being sensible. My response in the situation I referred to was to simply and quickly bow out, saying that my negativity would only poison the atmosphere. No need for that. There were others who actually cried out in ardaas for God's help and then went along with the plan anyway. The plan BTW had to do with "forcing" people to learn Gurbani in a way that I viewed as counterproductive . Another BTW, I don't recall that Waheguru forced anyone to do anything. But I was told by one person that it was His Hukam.

I gave up Roman Catholocism because of this kind of thinking.

I have beard and turban, but this is also attracting sikh girls that are very liberal that happen to have brothers or fathers that have turban and beard.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls.html

Also another problem is some liberal girls start to like turbanned guys from reading sikh history, but they don't change their own values.

The fact isn't helped with so many sardars being players or making gfs, etc...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409
I don't see a problem with sardars getting girls, although personally are girls from many other non-sikh backgrounds that are attracted to sardars. The problem for me is more finding sikh girls with traditional/cultural values, and less ones that like sardars.

I think you meant "The fact isn't helped with 'almost no' sardars being players or making gfs, etc..."
So to comment on what I think you meant. Singhnis are made to think that they should not get into a relationship because it's either anti-gurmat or anti-culture. Sardars know that ,so they don't bother. BUT others don't and sometimes the Singhni falls for the other guy (or a girl) who took that chance.
That is my theory anyway.

, not exactly, what I meant was, it doesn't help in the fact with many girls that are liberal in their values being attracted to sardars, when the sardars are also picking up women.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409

In some areas in the UK, sardars have a rep for being players, so the the less respectable type women seem to go for sardars as well. And I was sdaying in my case, I don't seem to have a problem attracting these sorts of women, but I actually find it difficult to find, nevermind attracting, women that are more cultural/traditional.

I don't think there is a problem with sardars attracting singhnis, or is there?
Unfortunately for me, in the past, most of the girls that came from religious families that have been attracted to me, may have had looks, but have somehow shown a bit too much excess baggage for my liking. Some of them may have taken amrit, but they can't really get rid of the excess baggage, and some have even gained more. They were looking for men, because quite frankly, they had ex-bfs before, so it was normal for them to get a man. So from then on I decided to go more for traditional/cultural types, for whom values come before religion and stuff

Bhagat ji

What you are saying does make sense. And -- this sounds like an emotional DMZ for Sikh girls. Nothing works. Nothing happens easily for them. Everything is complicated.

What does DMZ mean?

Bhagat ji

DMZ is code for demilitarized zone. Usually constructed when armed conflict reaches an impasse and belligerents agree to the creation of a zone or corridor of land that separates the armed forces. This is a tense place because although no overt armed conflict is occurring there, conflict could break out at any time. Just one person has to cross the line so to speak -- and shots are fired, the agreement becomes void, the zone is breached, and both parties are in conflict again. Between North and South Korea there is a DMZ -- also there have been other DMZ's in history.

You can imagine the tension the case of nerves that builds up in such a scenario.

Now the term DMZ is used as a metaphor in other nonmilitary contexts-- mostly to represent the high level of tension that a person experiences who finds herself trapped by the constant possibility of conflict and who is always in a state of anticipation that the quiet will suddenly erupt into madness. All it takes is one false step, one word, one look, and ..... So what I am saying is these young women seem to me to be living in a continual state of tension, nerves, anxiety, fear, that no matter what they say or do will turn out to be the wrong thing in the opinion of someone. And nothing will turn out to be the right thing for them. Just my opinion from what I have been reading in this thread.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19409

The safest thing to do in such circumstances is to be passive, to comply, to avoid making independent choices. If you do nothing you can't make a mistake, can you? Of course then you would also be giving up on yourself...which is bound to make you very very angry.