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Antonia ji,

Thanks muchly.

Yes, the Sikhnet videos have exactly what I need, I just seem unable to copy them to use. My usual "print screen" and use pain doesn't work. Any suggestions for how to copy them?
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Antonia ji,

Thanks muchly.

Yes, the Sikhnet videos have exactly what I need, I just seem unable to copy them to use. My usual "print screen" and use pain doesn't work. Any suggestions for how to copy them?

I was myself wondering how you could manage that... and maybe other forum readers will chime in here.

One idea is to show the entire video if the school has an internet hookup, projection, and a projection screen; and then pause the video where you want to stay focused. When you teach the lesson then you can upload the video from the interest. I will think about it and ask around.
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Re: How to tie a patka

Mai ji

Went off-line for a while and was thinking about your question. There is a low-tech solution and depends on whether you have any neighbors or friends who have a digital camera.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/17633-how-to-tie-a-patka.html

Ask someone to have an older sib or relative or husband take a picture of her tying her son's jura. The email it to you. You print it out and there you go.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17633
The could also make a video of the process too, and you could use that instead of still shots.

Of course your neighbor or friend has to support the idea, has to have a son, and needs a collaborator to take the pictures. Or it could be a video or picture of an older boy tying his own jura.

Just some brainstorming on my part.
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Re: How to tie a patka

Some good ideas. I am a little cautious of using pictures of a child I know in a blog with "Khalistan " in the title. Adults are OK, as they can make that decision themselves, and pictures roached off the Net are out there in public. (The GoI doesn't like me even a little bit, but that's a topic for another time.)
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A digital picture of my screen might be the best solution this time. However, I still want to figure out some way to do it directly from the video; that would be useful in many circumstances. There has to be a reasonably simple way to do it. Youtube is very easy. It's only Windows media and Realplayer that are the problems.
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Anyway, watching these videos brings back so many sweet memories of heart-to-heart conversations, "Mommy,don't pull out my sacred kesh!," and lots of laughter . This was a special, although far too short, period of time for me.

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Re: How to tie a patka

It is beautiful Mai ji
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"Mommy don't pull my sacred kesh" -- is a sweet thing.
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Antonia ji - It is hard to find anything about Sandeep that isn't sweet. We were blessed with a perfect child. Of course there was the time he threatened to cut his hair. I think he was five.

Such stories we have of our children, when we take the time to listen to them. Those times of day when I combed (and washed) and tied his kesh are among the happiest. He knew, of course, (children are very perceptive!) that was the time to ask for special favours, treats, wishes. ("Mommy, we need a kitty!") Looking up at me with those big grey eyes...
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Here I go again.

Well, he was sweet!
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Re: How to tie a patka

If you don't know how to tie a patka, you may also need some help tying a proper jura. Here is a delightful - dare I say adorable - video of exactly how to do that.

I have two suggestions for mata ji:

1. Don't pull the upper ponytail too tight or your hapless son will develop a receding hairline.

2. This can be a very special time for the two of you. First, because he is actually holding still, it's a great time to find out what's on his mind. And second, because you are engaging in an activity that is specifically Sikh, it's a great time for Sikh education. Be creative! We used to sometimes naam-jap together using different melodies.
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Re: How to tie a patka

The patka videos above no longer work. I would suggest that you go to

Learn How To Tie Different Sikh Turbans | SikhNet

Near the bottom is a patka-tying tutorial.

There are also several other turban tying videos there, as well.
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I came across this poem one day while reading Preeti Kaur ji's blog, The World I Stitch. As I read, I saw pictures of all that our children go through in school, especially in America and I felt the need to illustrate her painfully beautiful poem. She has graciously given me permission to reproduce the poem here. The words are hers; I am to blame for the pictures. (She approves of them, though!)


I would suggest that any children experiencing such problems, go to Khalsa Kids. There is a lot of help there. Parents are welcome, too, of course!


where ever it is dark-- poem for sikh children- REVISED


where ever it is dark (revised, kid-friendly version) 12/7/07
for r. singh (especially) and children everywhere

after school
i tell my mummy
i don't want to go back
tomorrow

she asks me why

i tell her
today in the playground
bullies
push me
punch me
kick me
shout at me
potato head!
raghead!
alladin!
even osama bin laden!
everything i know
i am not



i fight back
throw a fist




imagine the bullies as monsters
call them ugly things too
my cheeks burn
my heart thumps
i am MAD


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i didn't start this
i am just one
and no one listens
when i yell
stop it!
leave me alone!
no one helps me
when the bullies
rip the cloth
from my head
pull off
my patka



not even the friends
i swing with
everyday on the monkey-bars
or the kids
who swap sandwiches with me
in the cafeteria
not even the adults
who patrol the playgrounds
to make sure
everyone follows the rules



after
****** noses
bruises
scratches
the teachers sit us down

a peace negotiation
where no one questions
the bullies

why am i a target?



inside
i am like a match
like the ones my daddy warns me not to play with
a blue flame
which grows shorter every second
burning my insides
faster than i expect



i go home
and cry
and cry

i tell my mummy
everything

my mummy
wraps her arms
around my shoulders
tells me she loves me
with her eyes

she unwraps
my joora
lets loose
my long hair
runs her fingers through


mummy whispers
your hair
is like the night sky
your hair
is the universe




she combs my kes
with a kanga
twists my hair firm
on the top of my head
a galaxy you carry high
mummy says



she takes the square patka cloth
angles it
like a diamond
sets the patka on my scalp
and ties it tight
mummy tells me
this patka
crowns you

one day
you will wear a turban
cloth as long as the seven oceans
the full span of the earth
will rest on your head



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be a brave young prince
like Sahibzaada Zorawar Singh Ji
like Sahibzaada Fateh Singh Ji
when bullies
big as kings
threaten them
for carrying the universe on their heads

like true princes
when bullies
torture them
with three nights
in the cold
in the dark




when everyone wanted them to just be children
they raised their chins high




no tears
just the ways of the lion prince




with questions and conversation
a duty for the kingdom

mummy kisses my cheeks
i kiss her back

i tell her
i will go back to school tomorrow
i will be like a prince
a shooting star


bright and brave
where ever it is cold
where ever it is dark

pk
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Waheguru Ji Ka khalsa,Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.
Thanks for sharing this incredibly beautiful poem with the cyber sangat.
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Preeti Kaur is blessed indeed to have given such a wonderous form to spontaneous overflow of these powerful emotions.What a bright young poet ! how lovingly she portrays the sikh mother's infusion of the indomitable sikh spirit into her child !the mother,s love and encouragement are able to transform a badly buffetted boy into one ready to face this world head on and continue on his march towards the Truth.

Thanks for your marvellous illustrations.
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