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24-08-2007, 03:03 AM
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24-08-2007, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TGill Where did I say it is wrong to learn Punjabi and speak it. Please mention a point where I said that.
I said why only Punjabi, learn Sanskrit, Farsi, English French etc. with equal vigor. Why force something on chilren, let them be the free souls. | Well in your first post you said that punjabi is increasingly becoming a language to swear.
Also the children are in the age group of 9-13 so at this age parents do force things on children and there is nothing wrong forcing children to speak mother tongue.
Now as prabjyot ji is very religious so if her children also become's religious then going to
gurdwara associating with other Sikh sangat will become routine for them.Now as most of the sikhs are punjabi's so obviously they will try to speak punjabi with them.At that time it become's very embarrissing for them to say that they can't speak punjabi.
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24-08-2007, 11:00 AM
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31-08-2007, 01:51 AM
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| | T Gill ji,
Thank you for your comments. I think I understand what you are pointing to. No, punjabi is not forced upon these children as this post speaks for itself. I am finding ways to encourage children to 'use' punjabi more in order to grasp the essence of Gurbani. What could be better way to use punjabi more than to speak it in their home and with their parents and siblings? Gurbani used language of all kinds but one script i.e. Gurmukhi. Most used language is Punjabi in one or the other dialect. We are lucky to have multiple dialects within our family...me being Malvai and husband's family has Amritsar background, our close relatives from Delhi. It is true that parenting does not come as 'on-fits-all' so the things that work for me, may not work for other moms and their children....but I would like to share my experience if any one would like to try with their children. Our children spoke punjabi before they began KG, went to punjabi schools off and on...learnt a bit of Punjabi. I spent last two months with them..reading, writing and speaking punjabi. With Guru's mehar, older two ages 11,13 are taking Guru's hukum daily with negligible mistakes. For me learning Gurmukhi was not only to be able to read from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, but also to understand the essesence of shabad Guru. Before we get to computer to read the meanings of the Guru's Hukum, all of them somewhat understand what Guru ji's is saying. It is because they do understand those Punjabi words that are commonly used in Gurbani...but we all read meanings on-line. I am really fortunate to learn from these children and through these children.
Guru Ang Sang!
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31-08-2007, 02:31 AM
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| | How do you translate this phrase to Punjabi ?
If you were all alone in the universe with no one to talk to, no one with which to share the beauty of the stars, to laugh with, to touch, what would be your purpose in life? It is love, which gives your life meaning. This is harmony. We must discover the joy of each other, the joy of challenge, the joy of growth.
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06-09-2007, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by begum How do you translate this phrase to Punjabi ?
If you were all alone in the universe with no one to talk to, no one with which to share the beauty of the stars, to laugh with, to touch, what would be your purpose in life? It is love, which gives your life meaning. This is harmony. We must discover the joy of each other, the joy of challenge, the joy of growth. | Begum ji, I don't know who you asked the question....but as per a Sikh's life, the purpose of this life is to do 'Simran'...remember and love the ONE Waheguru. Each and everyone is part of that Almighty Waheguru, it is love of Waheguru ji that helps soul to merge back with that supreme soul (Param+Aatma)...that is the purpose of life. All other relations in life are his creation, if they are there, love them, enjoy His creation and do all that is required of you to make this life worth living...if they are not there; yet a Sikh is never alone. A Sikh always rememers 'Guru mere sang sada hai naale' and a Sikh is never an orphan as he/she recites 'Tum maat pita hum baarik tere'. So the 'faith' never makes him/her lonely. Gurbani also says 'Je tu mera hoe rahen sabh jag tera hoe'
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06-09-2007, 12:32 AM
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| | Wow, I'm stunned. Thanks alot, Prabjyot Ji, for your soothing words. If a Guru's student has such beautiful knowledge, then I bow humbly before that Great Guru. Wah Ji Wah. You made my day. Khush Khabri.
Here is a Guldasta of Raags for you : Sajana sant aavoh mere
Raags : Guldasta (Malkauns, Bageshri, Multani, Hameer, Sorath, Jaijawanti, Durga, Bahar, Basant) English Translation : Click here > saajnaa sant aa-o mayrai
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06-09-2007, 11:41 PM
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| | Thank you Begum ji  I love Gurmeet Singh Shaant ji's kirtan & had it downloaded, just clicked to listen once again. Thanks again for being so kind.
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09-02-2008, 08:27 PM
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11-02-2008, 03:45 PM
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Why don't you send your kids to Miri Piri Academy in Amritsar? Miri Piri Academy
I heard that this very helpful academy. They help to keep heritage alive and help children to become leaders. I don't know the age of your kids but you might just read about it.
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