
29-Jan-2007, 01:12 AM
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| | | | | | | Wake up call Anyone know why we are on this earth and what what we should be doing whilst we are here?
No bad thing to point it out again surely. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/14927-wake-up-call.html
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29-Jan-2007, 02:29 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: Wake up call Yes, a truly open ended question. And the answer is........ | 
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| | | | | Re: Wake up call Awsw mhlw 5 ] (12-6) aasaa mehlaa 5. Aasaa, Fifth Mehl: BeI prwpiq mwnuK dyhurIAw ] bha-ee paraapat maanukh dayhuree-aa.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14927 This human body has been given to you. goibMd imlx kI ieh qyrI brIAw ] gobind milan kee ih tayree baree-aa. This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe. Avir kwj qyrY ikqY n kwm ] avar kaaj tayrai kitai na kaam. Nothing else will work. imlu swDsMgiq Bju kyvl nwm ]1] mil saaDhsangat bhaj kayval naam. ||1|| Join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; vibrate and meditate on the Jewel of the Naam. ||1|| srMjwim lwgu Bvjl qrn kY ] saraNjaam laag bhavjal taran kai. Make every effort to cross over this terrifying world-ocean. jnmu ibRQw jwq rMig mwieAw kY ]1] rhwau ] janam baritha jaat rang maa-i-aa kai. ||1|| rahaa-o. You are squandering this life uselessly in the love of Maya. ||1||Pause|| jpu qpu sMjmu Drmu n kmwieAw ] jap tap sanjam Dharam na kamaa-i-aa. I have not practiced meditation, self-discipline, self-restraint or righteous living. syvw swD n jwinAw hir rwieAw ]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14927 sayvaa saaDh na jaani-aa har raa-i-aa. I have not served the Holy; I have not acknowledged the Lord, my King. khu nwnk hm nIc krMmw ] kaho naanak ham neech karammaa. Says Nanak, my actions are contemptible! srix pry kI rwKhu srmw ]2]4] saran paray kee raakho sarmaa. ||2||4|| O Lord, I seek Your Sanctuary; please, preserve my honor! ||2||4|| | 
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| | | | | Re: Wake up call isrIrwgu mhlw 3 ] sireeraag mehalaa 3 || Siree Raag, Third Mehla: ikrpw kry guru pweIAY hir nwmo dyie idRVwie ] kirapaa karae gur paaeeai har naamo dhaee dhrirraae || By His Grace, the Guru is found, and the Name of the Lord is implanted within. ibnu gur iknY n pwieE ibrQw jnmu gvwie ] bin gur kinai n paaeiou birathhaa janam gavaae ||Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14927 Without the Guru, no one has obtained it; they waste away their lives in vain. mnmuK krm kmwvxy drgh imlY sjwie ]1] manamukh karam kamaavanae dharageh milai sajaae ||1|| The self-willed manmukhs create karma, and in the Court of the Lord, they receive their punishment. ||1|| mn ry dUjw Bwau cukwie ] man rae dhoojaa bhaao chukaae || O mind, give up the love of duality. AMqir qyrY hir vsY gur syvw suKu pwie ] rhwau ] a(n)thar thaerai har vasai gur saevaa sukh paae || rehaao || The Lord dwells within you; serving the Guru, you shall find peace. ||Pause|| scu bwxI scu sbdu hY jw sic Dry ipAwru ] sach baanee sach sabadh hai jaa sach dhharae piaar || When you love the Truth, your words are true; they reflect the True Word of the Shabad. hir kw nwmu min vsY haumY k®oDu invwir ] har kaa naam man vasai houmai krodhh nivaar || The Name of the Lord dwells within the mind; egotism and anger are wiped away. min inrml nwmu iDAweIAY qw pwey moK duAwru ]2] man niramal naam dhhiaaeeai thaa paaeae mokh dhuaar ||2|| Meditating on the Naam with a pure mind, the Door of Liberation is found. ||2|| haumY ivic jgu ibnsdw mir jMmY AwvY jwie ] houmai vich jag binasadhaa mar ja(n)mai aavai jaae || Engrossed in egotism, the world perishes. It dies and is re-born; it continues coming and going in reincarnation. mnmuK sbdu n jwxnI jwsin piq gvwie ] manamukh sabadh n jaananee jaasan path gavaae || The self-willed manmukhs do not recognize the Shabad; they forfeit their honor, and depart in disgrace. gur syvw nwau pweIAY scy rhY smwie ]3] gur saevaa naao paaeeai sachae rehai samaae ||3||Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14927 Serving the Guru, the Name is obtained, and one remains absorbed in the True Lord. ||3|| sbid mMinAY guru pweIAY ivchu Awpu gvwie ] sabadh ma(n)niai gur paaeeai vichahu aap gavaae || With faith in the Shabad, the Guru is found, and selfishness is eradicated from within. Anidnu Bgiq kry sdw swcy kI ilv lwie ] anadhin bhagath karae sadhaa saachae kee liv laae || Night and day, worship the True Lord with devotion and love forever. nwmu pdwrQu min visAw nwnk shij smwie ]4]19]52] naam padhaarathh man vasiaa naanak sehaj samaae ||4||19||52|| The Treasure of the Naam abides in the mind; O Nanak, in the poise of perfect balance, merge into the Lord. ||4||19||52||
My attempt to answer both parts of your question.
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29-Jan-2007, 06:02 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: Wake up call Thank you, good reply, good for the soul to read guru ji's bani. | 
29-Jan-2007, 09:48 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: Wake up call we are here to meet & merge in ocean just like a river moving & moving to merge in the ocean. it may not be possible in this life but ultimate is truth & we shall come again . this gyan shall compel us , motivate us to make this world more enjoyable , more beautiful , more comfortable. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14927Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14927
living with these thoughts only shall it more meaningful.
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Originally Posted by naam_jap Thank you, good reply, good for the soul to read guru ji's bani. | Good question "Boota ji".
I agree "Naam_jap", Gurbani has amazing powers and the only way I could find answers to "Boota" ji's question was to turn to our amazing Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.
For e.g. in Japji Sahib: rwqI ruqI iQqI vwr ]
raatee rutee thitee vaar, vwihgurU ny rwqW, mOsm, iQ`qW (cMd dy ihswb idn), vwr (hPqy dy idn),
Nights, seasons, lunar-days, weekdays, pvx pwxI AgnI pwqwl ]
pavan paanee agnee paataal, hvw, pwxI, A`g qy pwqwl pYdw kIqy[
Wind, water, fire and nether worlds, were created by the Lord. iqsu ivic DrqI Qwip rKI Drm swl ]
tis vich Dhartee thaap rakhee Dharam saal. vwihgurU ny iehnw dy ivc DrqI (zmIn, dunIAW), ik jo Drm (nykI, Bjn) kmwaux dI QW hY, itkw id`qI[
In the midst of these, He set the earth (world) as the place to practice Dharam (Dharma – virtues, and the recitation of His Name). iqsu ivic jIA jugiq ky rMg ]
tis vich jee-a jugat kay rang. ies dy ivc, rMgbrMgI jugqI (jIvn-jwc) vwly jIA-jMq bxw id`qy,
Therein, He created various beings with different living-modes, iqn ky nwm Anyk Anµq ]
tin kay naam anayk anant. (ik) ijMnHW dy nwm Anigxq Aqy byAMq hn[(keI iksm dy jwnvr bxw id`qy)[
(And) their names are uncountable and limitless. krmI krmI hoie vIcwru ]
karmee karmee ho-i veechaar. (iehnw jIvW dIAW iksmW Aqy nwm iek bMny rhy), g`l qW mk`udI hY iehnw dy kMmW-krmW (iksmq, vwihgurU dI ikrpw) qy,
(Leave aside their names and kinds), these are judged according to their deeds and destiny (His Kindness), scw Awip scw drbwru ]
sachaa aap sachaa darbaar. (ikauN ik) vwihgurU dy drbwr ivc isr& s`c vrqdw hY[
(Because) in the Court of the True Lord, only the Truth is considered. iqQY sohin pMc prvwxu ]
tithai sohan panch parvaan. auQy (aus drbwr ivc) jo (scweI krky) r`b nUµ mnzUr (prvwx, gurmuK hn) auh hI sjdy (bYTdy) hn[
There (In His Court) only the accepted ones (His devotees) stay, ndrI krim pvY nIswxu ]
nadree karam pavai neesaan. (Br auhnw nUµ ies drbwr ivc Awaux dI AwigAw leI) auhdI imhr Aqy auhnw dy krmw krky ieh inSwn (muhr, inSwnI pihcwxn dI) imldI hY[
(And for their permission to enter that Place) they are bestowed with the mark of identity due to the Kindness (Benevolence) of the Lord and their own destiny (Good deeds create good luck). kc pkweI EQY pwie ]
kach pakaa-ee o-thai paa-i. k`cy (mwVy) Aqy p`ky (cMgy) auQy (aus drbwr ivc) prKy jWdy hn,
The ordinary and the elevated (advanced) ones are tested (decided, judged) there (In His Court), nwnk gieAw jwpY jwie ]34]
naanak ga-i-aa jaapai jaa-i. ||34|| (Aqy) nwnk, (AwpxI ies k`c qy p`k dw pqw) aus jgHw (auhdy drbwr) ivc p`uj ky hI l`gdw hY[(auQy prK hox qy pqw l`gdw gY ik ieh Bgq hY ik nhI)[
(And) Nanak, this (status of the person - ordinary or elevated) is known at that Place (His Court). ||34|| Drm KMf kw eyho Drmu ]
Dharam khand kaa ayho Dharam. (au~pr disAw) Drm dy mMfl dw (scweI dy Gr, vwihgurU dI bKiSS dw) ieh hI Drm (AsUl) hY[
(Aforesaid) is the Level of the Right-Doing (Truthfulness of the Man), and of the Kindness of the Lord. | 
29-Jan-2007, 16:54 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: Wake up call All of ur replies are good and genuine..
too good keep it up
But what does Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji mean by Sadh-sangat in
BHAI Prapat Manukh dehuriya.......
Gobind milan ki...
AVAR kaaj tere....
Mil SADH-SANGAT Bhaj keval naam
and
what does these lines mean Quote: |
Originally Posted by kaur-1;50[FONT=GurbaniWebThick ikrpw kry guru pweIAY hir nwmo dyie idRVwie ][/FONT] kirapaa karae gur paaeeai har naamo dhaee dhrirraae || By His Grace, the Guru is found, and the Name of the Lord is implanted within. ibnu gur iknY n pwieE ibrQw jnmu gvwie ] bin gur kinai n paaeiou birathhaa janam gavaae || Without the Guru, no one has obtained it; they waste away their lives in vain.
971]Good question "Boota ji".
I agree "Naam_jap", Gurbani has amazing powers and the only way I could find answers to "Boota" ji's question was to turn to our amazing Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.
For e.g. in Japji Sahib: rwqI ruqI iQqI vwr ]
raatee rutee thitee vaar, vwihgurU ny rwqW, mOsm, iQ`qW (cMd dy ihswb idn), vwr (hPqy dy idn),
Nights, seasons, lunar-days, weekdays, pvx pwxI AgnI pwqwl ]
pavan paanee agnee paataal, hvw, pwxI, A`g qy pwqwl pYdw kIqy[
Wind, water, fire and nether worlds, were created by the Lord. iqsu ivic DrqI Qwip rKI Drm swl ]
tis vich Dhartee thaap rakhee Dharam saal. vwihgurU ny iehnw dy ivc DrqI (zmIn, dunIAW), ik jo Drm (nykI, Bjn) kmwaux dI QW hY, itkw id`qI[
In the midst of these, He set the earth (world) as the place to practice Dharam (Dharma – virtues, and the recitation of His Name). iqsu ivic jIA jugiq ky rMg ]
tis vich jee-a jugat kay rang. ies dy ivc, rMgbrMgI jugqI (jIvn-jwc) vwly jIA-jMq bxw id`qy,
Therein, He created various beings with different living-modes, iqn ky nwm Anyk Anµq ]
tin kay naam anayk anant. (ik) ijMnHW dy nwm Anigxq Aqy byAMq hn[(keI iksm dy jwnvr bxw id`qy)[
(And) their names are uncountable and limitless. krmI krmI hoie vIcwru ]
karmee karmee ho-i veechaar. (iehnw jIvW dIAW iksmW Aqy nwm iek bMny rhy), g`l qW mk`udI hY iehnw dy kMmW-krmW (iksmq, vwihgurU dI ikrpw) qy,
(Leave aside their names and kinds), these are judged according to their deeds and destiny (His Kindness), scw Awip scw drbwru ]
sachaa aap sachaa darbaar. (ikauN ik) vwihgurU dy drbwr ivc isr& s`c vrqdw hY[
(Because) in the Court of the True Lord, only the Truth is considered. iqQY sohin pMc prvwxu ]
tithai sohan panch parvaan. auQy (aus drbwr ivc) jo (scweI krky) r`b nUµ mnzUr (prvwx, gurmuK hn) auh hI sjdy (bYTdy) hn[
There (In His Court) only the accepted ones (His devotees) stay, ndrI krim pvY nIswxu ]
nadree karam pavai neesaan. (Br auhnw nUµ ies drbwr ivc Awaux dI AwigAw leI) auhdI imhr Aqy auhnw dy krmw krky ieh inSwn (muhr, inSwnI pihcwxn dI) imldI hY[
(And for their permission to enter that Place) they are bestowed with the mark of identity due to the Kindness (Benevolence) of the Lord and their own destiny (Good deeds create good luck). kc pkweI EQY pwie ]
kach pakaa-ee o-thai paa-i. k`cy (mwVy) Aqy p`ky (cMgy) auQy (aus drbwr ivc) prKy jWdy hn,
The ordinary and the elevated (advanced) ones are tested (decided, judged) there (In His Court), nwnk gieAw jwpY jwie ]34]
naanak ga-i-aa jaapai jaa-i. ||34|| (Aqy) nwnk, (AwpxI ies k`c qy p`k dw pqw) aus jgHw (auhdy drbwr) ivc p`uj ky hI l`gdw hY[(auQy prK hox qy pqw l`gdw gY ik ieh Bgq hY ik nhI)[
(And) Nanak, this (status of the person - ordinary or elevated) is known at that Place (His Court). ||34|| Drm KMf kw eyho Drmu ]
Dharam khand kaa ayho Dharam. (au~pr disAw) Drm dy mMfl dw (scweI dy Gr, vwihgurU dI bKiSS dw) ieh hI Drm (AsUl) hY[
(Aforesaid) is the Level of the Right-Doing (Truthfulness of the Man), and of the Kindness of the Lord. | | 
29-Jan-2007, 16:56 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: Wake up call All of ur replies are good and genuine..
too good keep it up
But what does Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji mean by Sadh-sangat in
BHAI Prapat Manukh dehuriya.......
Gobind milan ki...
AVAR kaaj tere....
Mil SADH-SANGAT Bhaj keval naam
and
what does these lines mean ikrpw kry guru pweIAY hir nwmo dyie idRVwie ] kirapaa karae gur paaeeai har naamo dhaee dhrirraae || By His Grace, the Guru is found, and the Name of the Lord is implanted within. ibnu gur iknY n pwieE ibrQw jnmu gvwie ] bin gur kinai n paaeiou birathhaa janam gavaae || Without the Guru, no one has obtained it; they waste away their lives in vain. Quote: |
Originally Posted by kaur-1;50[FONT=Arial [/font]
971]Good question "Boota ji".
I agree "Naam_jap", Gurbani has amazing powers and the only way I could find answers to "Boota" ji's question was to turn to our amazing Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.
For e.g. in Japji Sahib: rwqI ruqI iQqI vwr ]
raatee rutee thitee vaar, vwihgurU ny rwqW, mOsm, iQ`qW (cMd dy ihswb idn), vwr (hPqy dy idn),
Nights, seasons, lunar-days, weekdays, pvx pwxI AgnI pwqwl ]
pavan paanee agnee paataal, hvw, pwxI, A`g qy pwqwl pYdw kIqy[
Wind, water, fire and nether worlds, were created by the Lord. iqsu ivic DrqI Qwip rKI Drm swl ]
tis vich Dhartee thaap rakhee Dharam saal. vwihgurU ny iehnw dy ivc DrqI (zmIn, dunIAW), ik jo Drm (nykI, Bjn) kmwaux dI QW hY, itkw id`qI[
In the midst of these, He set the earth (world) as the place to practice Dharam (Dharma – virtues, and the recitation of His Name). iqsu ivic jIA jugiq ky rMg ]
tis vich jee-a jugat kay rang. ies dy ivc, rMgbrMgI jugqI (jIvn-jwc) vwly jIA-jMq bxw id`qy,
Therein, He created various beings with different living-modes, iqn ky nwm Anyk Anµq ]
tin kay naam anayk anant. (ik) ijMnHW dy nwm Anigxq Aqy byAMq hn[(keI iksm dy jwnvr bxw id`qy)[
(And) their names are uncountable and limitless. krmI krmI hoie vIcwru ]
karmee karmee ho-i veechaar. (iehnw jIvW dIAW iksmW Aqy nwm iek bMny rhy), g`l qW mk`udI hY iehnw dy kMmW-krmW (iksmq, vwihgurU dI ikrpw) qy,
(Leave aside their names and kinds), these are judged according to their deeds and destiny (His Kindness), scw Awip scw drbwru ]
sachaa aap sachaa darbaar. (ikauN ik) vwihgurU dy drbwr ivc isr& s`c vrqdw hY[
(Because) in the Court of the True Lord, only the Truth is considered. iqQY sohin pMc prvwxu ]
tithai sohan panch parvaan. auQy (aus drbwr ivc) jo (scweI krky) r`b nUµ mnzUr (prvwx, gurmuK hn) auh hI sjdy (bYTdy) hn[
There (In His Court) only the accepted ones (His devotees) stay, ndrI krim pvY nIswxu ]
nadree karam pavai neesaan. (Br auhnw nUµ ies drbwr ivc Awaux dI AwigAw leI) auhdI imhr Aqy auhnw dy krmw krky ieh inSwn (muhr, inSwnI pihcwxn dI) imldI hY[
(And for their permission to enter that Place) they are bestowed with the mark of identity due to the Kindness (Benevolence) of the Lord and their own destiny (Good deeds create good luck). kc pkweI EQY pwie ]
kach pakaa-ee o-thai paa-i. k`cy (mwVy) Aqy p`ky (cMgy) auQy (aus drbwr ivc) prKy jWdy hn,
The ordinary and the elevated (advanced) ones are tested (decided, judged) there (In His Court), nwnk gieAw jwpY jwie ]34]
naanak ga-i-aa jaapai jaa-i. ||34|| (Aqy) nwnk, (AwpxI ies k`c qy p`k dw pqw) aus jgHw (auhdy drbwr) ivc p`uj ky hI l`gdw hY[(auQy prK hox qy pqw l`gdw gY ik ieh Bgq hY ik nhI)[
(And) Nanak, this (status of the person - ordinary or elevated) is known at that Place (His Court). ||34|| Drm KMf kw eyho Drmu ]
Dharam khand kaa ayho Dharam. (au~pr disAw) Drm dy mMfl dw (scweI dy Gr, vwihgurU dI bKiSS dw) ieh hI Drm (AsUl) hY[
(Aforesaid) is the Level of the Right-Doing (Truthfulness of the Man), and of the Kindness of the Lord. | | 
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