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27-Mar-2009, 04:08 AM
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Actually there are several biological conditions that cause women to have facial hair. These can involve hormones, abnormalities of certain organs and genetically transmitted abnormalities. In some cultures heavy facial hair on women is considered a mark of beauty. This was the case in ancient Pompeii where there are actual wall-paintings depicting women with heavy facial hair. This tendency was eventually traced back to the discovery of a cranial abnormality that caused pressure on certain glands -- the result leading to heavy facial hair. The discovery was made through anthropologists' examination of female skulls buried for centuries under volcanic ash following the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Anthropologists were able to link the skull abnormality to facial hair by finding corresponding patterns among women whose families had lived in the area surrounding Mount Vesuvius for centuries. | Antonia ji,
Guru fateh.
Interesting insight.
One wonders what kind of FIXO ( hair mousse) did they use and what cloth was the THATHA made of the one they wore then, the bearded women I mean! Just kidding, folks. 
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27-Mar-2009, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by VaheguruSeekr Antonia ji,
Guru fateh.
Interesting insight.
One wonders what kind of FIXO ( hair mousse) did they use and what cloth was the THATHA made of the one they wore then, the bearded women I mean! Just kidding, folks.
Tejwant Singh | Very  ish!
They probably used olive oil... but that is a guess. |
27-Mar-2009, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VaheguruSeekr Removing or not removing hair and how? That is the question!
ATrue Story.
A few years ago, a well known Kathavachak whose name would remain unmentioned came to Lankershim Gurdwara in North Hollywood. I was fortunate enough to attend his katha as my regular Sunday visit to the place. This Katahvachak was a bit heavy pot bellied gentleman who seemed to express a lot of Gurmat wisdom. At that time I used to wear a Simarnah and a thick sarbh loh kara on my right wrist. With the result of these 2 ornaments, my hair on the right wrist were gone due to the rubbing, which is natural.
He and I were having Langar together and exchanging Gurmat ideas. When he noticed my wrist as he was sitting on my right hand side, he really got upset claiming that I was doing something non Gurmat and it was a bedbi to Sikhi. I did notice he was also wearing a thick Kara on his right hand side. I told him that if one wears a Kara, it is natural that some hair would get lost. First he denied that it was the case for him.
Then I asked him that as he was a bit heavy then his thighs must rub and then the bedbi of the hair happens between his legs and if he thought that it was ok. He got so upset that he left his langar half eaten and walked away without giving any reason to the management who were baffled. They asked me what happened and I kept mum pleading innocence. He was supposed to do the Katha the next day but some emergency happened and he did not show up.
So what I am trying to say is that all those of us who wear karas and if our thighs rub each other whether due to over weight or because of natural anatomy then we all are doing bedbi according to Singh ji.
So Singh ji, how are your thighs doing and how thick is your Kara?
Amritdhari Sikhs who have heart operations or other medical procedures get their hair shaved from some part of the bodies and there is nothing wrong with that because it is IK ONG KAAR who has given the means for these procedures to be done.
Making Sikhi a radical dogmatic -ism rather than a beautiful way of life that it is, makes us contrary to openmindedness that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji offers. Mind you, blind faith makes people blind towards reality.
Tejwant Singh | Once again accused of saying something that I never said. Tejwant Singh ji why do you accuse me when I didn't say what you accuse me of saying and I want a answer here, this has to stop.
when you do something intentionally and when something happens unintentionally is to different things, please Tejwant ji try to grasp this simple concept. Also your saying with your little story that people that go to solan or that get a shaver or get a scissor and put it to there face is unintentionally.
Here Tejwant ji, i'm use your reasoning. Bare with me I don't want to lose you with simple logical reasoning. According to you a person is purposely wearing a kara to remove hair and purposely walks to remove hair. Now im present the sound and reasobale logical behind all this. Are you still with me????? A person that cuts hair with a razor blade intentionally is removing hair and using the razor as a hair remover. A person that wears a kara and walks, the hair is removed unintenntionally because the reason to walk is to get to a destination and the reason to wear a Kara is to follow the Hukam of Guru Sahib. I hope you can grasp this simple logic. Well lets just put it this way my little brother hes 14 years old and he got it in a flash.
Sometimes being blunt works best 
Too bad I wasn't the Katha person then it would have been you who left his food half aten. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA Said in all good humor.
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27-Mar-2009, 04:27 AM
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Also Tejwant ji, from this day forward you should not comb your hair or wash it because the hair will be removed intentionally. I hope you understand this siimple logic. You should go against Guru Sahibs wishes and have matted hair. |
27-Mar-2009, 04:45 AM
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Singh ji,
Guru Fateh.
You write: Quote: Tony, Guru Har Krishan Sahib ji didn't say who the next Guru would be after him but did say he will be in a certain village.
Sikhs went to that village and there was many people claiming to be the next Guru. All of them were sitting in the poise position pretending to meditate and saying I am the next Guru. The only way the Sikh found out that Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji was the next Guru is because of one man that had promised the Guru 500 gold coins in a prayer if Guru Sahib saved his ship from sinking. As this Sikh asked Guru Sahib came and used his shoulder to support one side of the ship and brought it to shore. This Sikh went to own up to his pray and when he came to the town where all the fake Gurus were sitting he was puzzled to who was the real Guru. Since he promised Guru Sahib 500 coins, he decided to test them by giving each one of them a coin. All of them said I will bless you thanks for the offering. As all of them failed the test this Sikh new they weren't the Guru. Then a man told him there is a Saint sitting in a room meditating. So this Sikh decided to test him as Guru Sahib was meditating this Singh walked in the room placed one coin before Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji and bowed his head. With closed eyes Guru Sahib says you promised to give me 500 coins and before me you only place one. As the light went on in the Sikhs head he yelled from the roof top to every other Sikh that he has found the next Guru.
There were many and still are many fake Gurus claiming they have the seat as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. But this is not true because we have Guru Sahibs Hukam. | How do you know this story to be true?
This Sakhi proves nothing but anti Gurmat ideals which are against the teachings of our Gurus in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Sikhi is not about miracles.The true proof is in the sacrifices of 5th and 9th Gurus. The miracle is that we still remember their sacrifices and they became the cornerstone of the Sikhi bravura then showed by other Sikhs like Bhai Taru Singh and Bhai Mani Singh and all those young Sikh boys and girls whose heads were chopped off and sold for a price. The reason for the girls' beheading was so the marauders could lie and tell the Muslim fiends that they were young boys. So these true miracles that our Sikhs made themselves make us 25 million strong today even though many tried to exterminate us.
So, let us stick to Gurmat ideals of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, not on some made up stories which is insulting to all the sacrifices made by our Gurus and the brave Sikhs who followed them.
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27-Mar-2009, 05:08 AM
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Singh ji,
Guru Fateh.
You seem to get upset quite easily and at times for no reasons. I remember your getting upset and responding to my post without even fully reading it which you admitted yourself. Quote: |
Once again accused of saying something that I never said. Tejwant Singh ji why do you accuse me when I didn't say what you accuse me of saying and I want a answer here, this has to stop.
| If you read my post with a serene outlook, you would notice I have not accused you of anything. It is you who has been talking about HUKUM in your posts about not cutting hair, not me. Quote: |
when you do something intentionally and when something happens unintentionally is to different things, please Tejwant ji try to grasp this simple concept. Also your saying with your little story that people that go to solan or that get a shaver or get a scissor and put it to there face is unintentionally
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This is the first time you have used the word "intention" when challenged.You have only talked about HUKUM. Which woman's intentions are to grow facial hair? If it is a disease and there is a cure through laser or any other mean then what is your problem? Once again you are the one seeing things in a myopic manner and call it Hukum as far as facial hair of a woman is concerned rather than taking it like any other disease. Quote: |
Here Tejwant ji, i'm use your reasoning. Bare with me I don't want to lose you with simple logical reasoning. According to you a person is purposely wearing a kara to remove hair and purposely walks to remove hair. Now im present the sound and reasobale logical behind all this. Are you still with me????? A person that cuts hair with a razor blade intentionally is removing hair and using the razor as a hair remover. A person that wears a kara and walks, the hair is removed unintenntionally because the reason to walk is to get to a destination and the reason to wear a Kara is to follow the Hukam of Guru Sahib. I hope you can grasp this simple logic. Well lets just put it this way my little brother hes 14 years old and he got it in a flash.
| You once again do not seem to see things from the other side. A Kara is acting like a razor here whether you admit it or not or the HUKUM according to you is that Guru Sahib gave us the list of instruments to be used. Your reasoning and logic is nothing but circular and myopic. It is a shame to notice that you did not say in your logic that the kathavachak was wrong. One wonders why! He thought he was right that using Kara by me was bedbi. You see how you skip from one so called logic of yours to the other? Quote: |
Sometimes being blunt works best | Not as much as a sharp edged kara Quote: |
Too bad I wasn't the Katha person then it would have been you who left his food half aten. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA Said in all good humor.
| Once again you are contradicting yourself by defending the katahvachak who started the bedbi by Kara logic.Thanks for showing your circular logic once again.
In case you did not know, keeping physically fit is the HUKUM. So if you are NOT physically fit," tunn munn sabh somp Guru koh, Hukum Manieh payiei", then rubbing thighs is like using a razor intentionally. I am sure if you explained to your 14 year old brother in this way, he would get it much faster than you would.
Take care.
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27-Mar-2009, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by VaheguruSeekr Singh ji,
Guru Fateh.
You seem to get upset quite easily and at times for no reasons. I remember your getting upset and responding to my post without even fully reading it which you admitted yourself.
If you read my post with a serene outlook, you would notice I have not accused you of anything. It is you who has been talking about HUKUM in your posts about not cutting hair, not me.
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This is the first time you have used the word "intention" when challenged.You have only talked about HUKUM. Which woman's intentions are to grow facial hair? If it is a disease and there is a cure through laser or any other mean then what is your problem? Once again you are the one seeing things in a myopic manner and call it Hukum as far as facial hair of a woman is concerned rather than taking it like any other disease.
You once again do not seem to see things from the other side. A Kara is acting like a razor here whether you admit it or not or the HUKUM according to you is that Guru Sahib gave us the list of instruments to be used. Your reasoning and logic is nothing but circular and myopic.
Not as much as a sharp edged kara
Thanks for showing your circular logic once again. Keeping fit is the HUKUM. So if you are NOT physically fit," tunn munn sabh somp Guru koh, Hukum Manieh payiei", then rubbing thighs is like using a razor intentionally. I am sure if you explained to your 14 year old brother in this way, he will get it much faster than you would.
Take care.
Tejwant Singh | I'm going to give you a chance to think this post through and take all the flaws out of it before I answer. If you wish to prociede as it is written then when I get back I'll make sure all your irrational points are dressed and corrected.
also there is no need to be fake here. Believe in Truth and practice Truth, pm  |
27-Mar-2009, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Singh I'm going to give you a chance to think this post through and take all the flaws out of it before I answer. If you wish to prociede as it is written then when I get back I'll make sure all your irrational points are dressed and corrected.
also there is no need to be fake here. Believe in Truth and practice Truth, pm | Singh ji,
Guru Fateh.
Thanks for showing your arrogance. This must be the truth you claim to practice. It is you who has admitted in your post that you responded in the past without reading what had been said in them.
As mentioned many times before, I am a Sikh, a learner, a seeker and ready to learn from Sadh sangat's Gurmat wisdom and you are part of that Sadh Sangat.
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Originally Posted by aad0002 virinder and kds ji
Actually there are several biological conditions that cause women to have facial hair. These can involve hormones, abnormalities of certain organs and genetically transmitted abnormalities. In some cultures heavy facial hair on women is considered a mark of beauty. This was the case in ancient Pompeii where there are actual wall-paintings depicting women with heavy facial hair. This tendency was eventually traced back to the discovery of a cranial abnormality that caused pressure on certain glands -- the result leading to heavy facial hair. The discovery was made through anthropologists' examination of female skulls buried for centuries under volcanic ash following the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Anthropologists were able to link the skull abnormality to facial hair by finding corresponding patterns among women whose families had lived in the area surrounding Mount Vesuvius for centuries. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Tony Ji,
Thanks -I actually visited Pompeii in 1974 and know a little bit of its history and still some of the pictures lying somewhere even though it was later again covered by volcanic eruptions.
Virinder | 
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