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Old 03-Aug-2006, 18:47 PM
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Dear VEERJI

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I want to ask if it is a sin as per Sikh religion to have more than one wife.

If it is so where is it given in Sri Guru Granth Sahib.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/14098-sin-sikh-have-more-than-one.html

If I am not mistaken it was some where on this post which said that some of our Guruji had more than one wife.

In case it is not a sin then will the Sikh chiefs get a similar waiver for sikhs.

Please dont qoute law ; I know under the Indian law it is not pemitted.

My question is a religious one and not a legal one.

laws are man made religious are divine made.

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Old 03-Aug-2006, 18:51 PM
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Re: Is it a SIN as SIKH to have more than one wife ?

If Sikh men can have more than one wife, and women are totally equal to men, can Sikh women have more than one husband?

Would you be comfortable sharing your wife with another man, or men? If not, then consider that her perspective might indeed be similar.
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Old 03-Aug-2006, 22:22 PM
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Re: Is it a SIN as SIKH to have more than one wife ?

No what I meant was if the wife did not object to it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14098

That is it was with her conscent like the way Dharmander bhajii did it would it then also be a sin.?

In any way you have given me a modern world logical answer which is a standard.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14098

I was looking for a scriptual answer and not todays world answer.


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Re: Is it a SIN as SIKH to have more than one wife ?

Okay I can see how my reponse was not what you're looking for.

I am now also interested in what gurbani has to say regarding polygamy, for men and for women.

Personally, one-sided polygamy bothers me. In fact, it right annoys me.

I hope you find the answer to your question.
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Old 09-Aug-2006, 18:12 PM
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Re: Is it a SIN as SIKH to have more than one wife ?

Dear brother

SSAKAL

Since no one has given me a answer to my question ?

I shall tell what is weighing on my mind and why I wrote this post:--


I feel there can be no common code of conduct for all Sikhs thru out the world.

You will have to adapt to the land where you live.

Here In India there is a game plan to convert certian states like Utttar pardesh and Assam to Muslim states .

This will mean they too will become like Kashmir where our YOU WITH YOUR HINDU brothers shall be driven out .

Next after being driven out as in Kashmir ; they will come to us in Punjab crying like before in days of Guruji to save them.

Imagine if kashmir is eating into your army resource then what willl two muslim state do.

India would sink and so with it your Punjab.

What will happen to your beloved Golden Temple if India sinks. Vultures are sitting out to destroy it as it is posing a great threat to the muslims by its teaching of one common God.

Who unlike other religion believe that there is only one GOD and his name is Allah.
We say that there is certianly one God but who is called by different name in different civilizations.

The same ruins that other Gurdwara suffer today in Pakistan (From where you have been driven out of your ancestreal home mercilessly).

Same fate shall befall Golden Temple sooner or later if these two states fall .

At least Golden temple shines again in India today to give its spiritual guidance and fragrance to you in all the distant land.

Which you all fondly come from abroad to visit.

It is in this context I suggested that we can adapt few of their tactics of survival which I have discussed at this site under post :-

Indian muslim a sucess story:- lessons for Sikhs

Having more than one wife is a temporary abberant step in that direction so the smart and sucessful amongst us can have more of his genome by more number of Kids. It is certianly nota permanent way. We are adopting to the harsh realities of life.

Let us not get cowed down by our past leagacy. It is full of blunders and mistakes it is just the raw courage that saw us thru the bad days of 1600. It is high time that we started using our Brains besides the Brawn ( of which we have plenty see the latest Akal Takth brawl ) now that we are an adolescent religion 500 years young .

Bubbling with enthusiasm and youthfulness and rearing to go due to our young religion.

We have arrived on the beautiful planet called Earth.

Once the threat goes of the Calipathe ( the dirty job is already being done by USA and Israel armed forces) we can start living the normal way the rest of world lives. I sincerly wish we could join this war of enduring freedom.


Now some would wonder why after 1980 should we bother about this threat to other Indian State.

Let me say that the 1980's can be compared to two brothers ( Punjabi ) fighting over the Indian Pie .

Just like Reliance brother fought over there father's empire.

No brother budged from his share not even a penny.

Did one of the brother give up on his share of Reliance Pie. No and why should he.

The other brother of our's has used all the dirty tactics they could do by their close influence on Power in Delhi.

Riots , Golden temple invasion and Scorched earth policy in Punjab to demoralise us and send us scurring away to our Western friends for shelter.

After all they think they are the smarter bloke .

Just like the Jews considered themselves when christianity was being born.

What did the Jews do to Christ? They just crucified them.

That did not stop the Christian as becoming the greatest religion on modern day earth.

We Sikhs should also get rightfully our share of the Indian Pie and I can promise you that their are a lot of Indians who feel that Sikhs must get there share of Indian pie.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14098

Dont get affected by the action of few competitive Indians.
There are a lot of Indians who love you.
Dont squander away the good will after all it has been made after a lot of sacrifices.

How else do you expalin the current SIkh PM and chief of Army staff.
It will take generations for you to get these posts in UK , Canada or USA pie.
In the Islamic world it will take you a millenium but you shall there also get your share of pie. ( After all RAJ KAREGA KHALSA ).


After all we Sikh have made the maximum sacrifice for our motherland India.

Mother India is quite fair even though few of her children want to corner it all to themselves ( no names ).

Under Sonia Gandhi stewardship lot of neglected chidren of India are getting there share of Indain Pie.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14098

We in Punjab are in certian ways what Greek civilization is to the western civilization.

Giving up your share of Indian Pie would be like a coward running away.

Some of your competitor who do not want you to have a share of Indian Pie will jeer at you with snide remarks of the 84 riots .

Dont let it bother you .

I have told you that Sikhs must be prepared for more Genocides/holocoust / to the extent even Jews did not see through out the world.
As to the reason why this shall happen especially in religious driven countries like the Indian and Islamic ones .
The answer is that you espounge a FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH which is blasphemous to many of entrenched vested interest through out the globe.

For only after these holococuast the Truth will dawn on this beautiful planet of ours so fearlessly say the truth

" That there is only one God for all of us and he loves all his children"

So remember in our fight amongst the brother ( Punjabi ) for Indian pie since 1980 :

Let the Muslim not be the smart one to take away pie from all of you in form of two vital states of Assam and Uttarpardesh.

Guard these states ferociously the way you guard your Punjab.

See to it that Uttar pardesh and Assam is not lost to medievieal forces out of the Oil rich foolish land called Arabia.

Just Ponder what I have written. It will start making sense with time .

I am happpily married but this threat weighs down on my mind heavily in INDIA.
There for this post is an adhoc temporary waiver on a single wife.


WGKWGF

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Old 10-Aug-2006, 16:25 PM
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Re: Is it a SIN as SIKH to have more than one wife ?

Maharaja Ranjit Singh is sometimes looked down on for having 21 wives. I am a supporter of him and would say that the day you can do what he did maybe you too will be able to have 21 wives. Also these wives were political marriages. Same with the Guru in question, he did not marry her, she devoted herself to him (I don't think an anand Karaj was done - unless somone knows otherwise)-slight difference.

In old times people got married younger and leaders sometimes had to CLAIM more than one woman. As with Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Maharani Jindan was his wife, others were political arrangements.

Obviously outdated rituals/ideals - and as Sikhism is a modern evolving religon its culture does not allow more than one wife - due to its commitment on equality. Is it in any book? I don't know, but I suppose the equality argument someone pointed out earlier is a good one (can A wife have more than one husband?) Guru Nanak Dev Ji made a point of being a house holder along with being religeous unlike the other religons at the time.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14098
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So - If you can get rid of the muslim oppression you fear, claim back all of original Punjab from Afganistan to Tibet then I am sure along the way with the amount of husbands lives that would be lost due to your actions you would end up having to look after more women than just your wife.
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Re: Is it a SIN as SIKH to have more than one wife ?

which gurus had more than one wife?
guru gobind singh ji? Nope he only had one, i read an article on it that it was a misunderstanding
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Re: Is it a SIN as SIKH to have more than one wife ?

dear HPS62 veerji
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14098

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