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21-05-2008, 11:13 AM
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| | I would have thought that a Sikh puts God above all. Isn't love of ones religion an aspect of egotistical maya? Shouldn't love of God transcend matters of which path to God others may take? The Sikh faith is the path to God. So when I stated Sikhs put their faith above all, they are putting God above all. When a Sikh is in that state of mind anyone harming or teaching the wrong path about Sikhism will be stopped by a Sikh and that Sikh has stood up for Sikhism. The Sikh that stood up he/she does it for the Guru regardless on what will happen to him/her. so it is not the Sikh’s ego, but the total humbleness to protect Sikhism. Please don't misunderstand me, I too love my faith, I just don't see why it is important that every body we come into contact with must be, or become Sikh. Why is it so harmful if my children do not become Sikh, what harm does that actualy do to the Sikh faith? Sikhism teaches about truthful living, why would a Sikh choose any other path or want anyone else to go off this path? You ask this as if no Sikh ever doubted her or his path, which is blatently untrue. The more important question though is why does it matter if a Sikh and a Muslim marry and each keep their own faith? Surly two loving beings who are each happy in their faith can be happy with each other, I know myself and my wife are. It harms humanity. Lee ask yourself a question, why did I choose Sikhism and not atheist? When one doubts his/her path that person is looking and yearning for a deeper understanding about Sikhism. That person is unhappy because of this. Why is it important that my wife and I share the same faith? Why is it important that my children are not Sikh? What damage does that do to me, or my faith, or my relationship with God? Sikhs are put on this earth for two reasons: one reach God themselves and two, teach humanity about righteous living. So all these why questions you asked are answered by those two reasons why Sikhs are here. Lee your job is not done yet. God placed you, your wife, and your children together for a reason. To test you if you can teach Sikhism to the ones around you and help them see the light in the darkness. If a Sikh marrys a Sikh than the children do not have to go through the hell of not finding the righteous path. Both parents will raise their children from the time they are born to the time the children can think for themselves about Sikhism.
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21-05-2008, 11:20 AM
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| | << To test you if you can teach Sikhism to the ones around you and help them see the light in the darkness.>> is God an Examiner? <<If a Sikh marrys a Sikh than the children do not have to go through the hell of not finding the righteous path. Both parents will raise their children from the time they are born to the time the children can think for themselves about Sikhism.>> How can you be SO sure that Sikhism is the ONLY right path?
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21-05-2008, 12:31 PM
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| | just to change the question a little what if one of the person is Sikh and the other holds no religion, is it expected that they will have to take up the others religion or can they stay "neutral" ( iguess its something that will differ between each family but i would like to know what ppl think)
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21-05-2008, 08:39 PM
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| | Amansanghera for this answer read up on other religions and you would be able to see if Sikhism is the only right path. For me it is the ONLY right path. It does not matter what religion the other person is from a Sikh marries a Sikh.
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23-05-2008, 08:30 AM
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| | The Sikh faith is the path to God. So when I stated Sikhs put their faith above all, they are putting God above all. When a Sikh is in that state of mind anyone harming or teaching the wrong path about Sikhism will be stopped by a Sikh and that Sikh has stood up for Sikhism. The Sikh that stood up he/she does it for the Guru regardless on what will happen to him/her. so it is not the Sikh’s ego, but the total humbleness to protect Sikhism. Singh ji
Very beautiful and inspiring views in context of Sikhism; however, I haven't understood the part of your protection of Sikhism. Do you think by protesting against who are weak and ready to leave Sikhism, is kind of protecting religion?
Amitabh Bachan's mother belonged to Sikhism but she dumped it, Geeta Bali though married Shammi Kapoor but kept her faith alive by having every year "Akhand path" in her Bombay house, all agreed with her and appreciated her efforts. Now do you care about the first one? I dont. For the second, Yes I do.
The one who has real faith are not going any where or compromising for any thing, the weaker will do, so it be; may be better one join Sikhism. Regarding Sikhs girls, they were trapped but didn't they know where they were heading? Alert Information should be posted out there but it still comes down to a person and his/her real love for Guru and his message. Never forget, Guru Nanak also share same views when he says that it is all your ordinance when your Name was Ram now it is Allah. Nothing happens beyond His Hukm. Protecting religion is a totally different thing. Missionaries in Punjab are doing their best to take away Sikhs, Dera Babas doing it on high speed, now what the Sikh organizations are doing for that? Poor are lead to different kind of faith with all kind of influences, what is being done? Shouldn't Youth should get organized and protect against it to wake up Sikh leaders. Religion belongs to those who believe in it, the one who dont, it doesnt matter what they do.
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26-05-2008, 06:43 PM
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| | Gur fateh to All Well, technically, it is a sin for a Sikh to marry a non Sikh . When the Sikh rehat maryada was created (the Sikh way of life), its wasn't just a bunch of random people creating rules out of nowhere. These highly religious and intelligent individuals decided this for a various amount of reasons. When someone does what they think is right for you, do you question them? If a parents tells his child, do not stick your finger in the electrical outlet, he must be telling you for a reason. The child does not know the reason and might think that his dad is scolding him frivolously (sp? sorry), but we know that he or she is doing what is right for his child. Even though we might not be told a reason, the rehat marayada tells us that we should not marry a non-Sikh and that should be the end of the discussion. If we go strictly by GURBANI in SGGS. .there is NO such concept of Paap (Sin) or PUNN ( good deed)
These are Brahimin/Hindu beliefs which have been THRASHED by the Sikh Gurus and the Bhagats who wrote Gurbani.
The Sikh Rehat Maryada is a Document created to Show the Sikh WAY OF LIFE.....a Code of Conduct...the Constitution of Sikh way of Life...How a Sikh is defined, how he is to live his daily life.. etc .
Just like it is "WRONG" as per Immigration Laws to say enter a country without a valid Passport/Visa...ITS NOT a "SIN" per se...Simiallrly any Sikh who VIOLATES the SRM...has to answer to the "Authorities" as per SRM. .but that is NOT a SIN.
The "Original Sin" is a Christian Concept...in Sikhi everyone is RESPONSIBLE for his own actions and faces the MUSIC for them on his own.. NO ONE ELSE can take responsibility for him ( like Jesus is supposed to do)
Similarly in Gurmatt.. supposedly PUNNS like going to teerath yatras, helping the needy and the sick, donating. .daan, etc etc are just "GOOD HUMAN BEHAVIOUR"..WITHOUT and SPIRITUAL "pay back" as such. In Gurmatt only Naam japp is PAYBACK.
Thus there is neither paap nor punn in Gurmatt
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27-05-2008, 12:29 PM
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| | "waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh" {yes this is a sin , if u leaving sikhi and join another dharam} if u not satisfied with my answer I will tell u why ?
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28-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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01-06-2008, 01:07 PM
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| | Amarsanghera
Read this article by Atheists. Maybe then, you ll be able to see what I was talking about. Study+of+Different+Religions+by+Atheists+enlarged. jpg (image)
And please explain to me in more detail in what you mean by these lines. 'the fragrance of a flower remains as long as it blooms
a plastic flower never has a frangrace, though it might be more radiant'
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05-06-2008, 12:27 PM
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| | I don't know if it is a sin or not but if we follow Guru Gobind Singh ji sikhi then we should also follow his 52 HUKUMs which he gave at nanded Hzur sahib "one of which was a Sikh father must marry his daughter with a Sikh boy".
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