Sikh and Non-Vegiterian Food

21khalsa13 · #19 (**permalink**) 28-Mar-2006, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pukandi Baba

Of course, i whole heartedly agree. I'm not here to argue just give my opinion on the matter just like you.

Although i do not agree that the cow is 'holy' that is Hindu thought and i have no interest in this whatsoever.

I've seen a few Amritdhari sikhs who wear leather, and furnish there house with leather furniture, this is wrong.

Do as you please, as long as it causes no harm to others that's my philosophy!!

guru nanak dev jee also said ahimsa is only a limb in the body of dharma - not the body itself. hence guru gobind singh jee lifted the sword once ALL!! others means have been exhausted.
we could follow this lead.

vijaydeep Singh · #20 (**permalink**) 28-Mar-2006, 19:21 PM

Gurfateh

Das has read the Sabad of Sant Kabeer Sahib JI,

It talks that if person does ritualism apparntly holy and lives luxurious life full of comferts of sensual pleausres,it all perhaps whole so called holy and acts with life goes to drain ie person is reborn.
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If being a Sikh we still live in concept of sin and good deeds then we are yet to be a Sikh.

All acts of us are in control of Akal.Akal is as much as in meat as in veg(Kya Maas Kya Saak) as we read in Var in Malar.

Again as per tradition of old Sampradyas meat along with many other veg itmes are not allowed as they do not let us do Nam Abhyas correcly specaily if we are not working hard.

das can direct you to sikhmarg.com where book by Respected S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana is online.

But das feels sorry when he makes fun of Mahapurushs of DDT or AKJ.

Say if we take the litral menaing of going to Rasatal or in ground or pit or neither by eating meat(there it is writtan fish with cannbis or alachohal) then if das does not eat it either after death ashes of das will go in soil.

Soil may have reamins of animals which are later acting as manure and making vegtraian food for us.We can not run away from the ways of Akal as Jains want to do.
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uinlike defying the existance of God and trying to do good ourselves as Jains do we need to surrender ourselves to Akal.

21khalsa13 · #21 (**permalink**) 28-Mar-2006, 19:36 PM

no animals can be vegi's as when they eat plants etc.. they eat with it the insects, bugs etc, all part of a healthy fully nutrious diet
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likewise if we had natural organic diets, and we eat straight from the trees as per nature - we would greatest healthiest diets

be open minded but not so much that your brains fall out

Satyaban · #22 (**permalink**) 30-Mar-2006, 10:53 AM

Namaskaar

I can not reconcile eating meat with ahimsa and the karma the killing would incur. It is not necessary to eat meat to sustain life. Indeed eating meat is an exercise of man's baser attachments to the sensory pleasures that is maya. This I believe.

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Om Namah Shaivaya
Om shanti shanti

Shahryar · #23 (**permalink**) 30-Mar-2006, 15:43 PM

It is more pertinent to ask whether we can afford to eat meat? Due to the increasing pressure of human population on earth can we afford to grow food to feed livestock which return about 5% back as meat?

Plus this huge livestock population, raised solely to provide food for us, competes with us for scarce resources like fresh water.

And there is the problem of pollution from unprocessed sewage due to intensive livestock farming.

Perhaps a vegetarian diet for 80-90% of the meals one consumes may be a better solution! If the demand for meat is reduced then the grain used to feed livestock can be diverted to human consumption.

Prabhjyotsaini · #24 (**permalink**) 30-Mar-2006, 21:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shahryar

It is more pertinent to ask whether we can afford to eat meat? Due to the increasing pressure of human population on earth can we afford to grow food to feed livestock which return about 5% back as meat?

Plus this huge livestock population, raised solely to provide food for us, competes with us for scarce resources like fresh water.

And there is the problem of pollution from unprocessed sewage due to intensive livestock farming.

Perhaps a vegetarian diet for 80-90% of the meals one consumes may be a better solution! If the demand for meat is reduced then the grain used to feed livestock can be diverted to human consumption.

Another good reason to think & be vegetarian. This idea if followed can greatly reduce the pressure on natural resources.

Thanks & regards,

vijaydeep Singh · #25 (**permalink**) 30-Mar-2006, 21:09 PM

Gurfateh

Say one 1kg of meat can work for 10 kg of wheat in some cases.Say in wresting or say in Korean martial Arts(often realted to non voilant Budhdha).

kds1980 · #26 (**permalink**) 31-Mar-2006, 00:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Prabhjyotsaini

Another good reason to think & be vegetarian. This idea if followed can greatly reduce the pressure on natural resources.

Thanks & regards,

so will you eat sea food as sea food does not put
pressure on natural resources.i read in my book that
sea is more productive than land and in future humans will do farming of fishes in the sea.

Prabhjyotsaini · #27 (**permalink**) 31-Mar-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

so will you eat sea food as sea food does not put
pressure on natural resources.i read in my book that
sea is more productive than land and in future humans will do farming of fishes in the sea.

Who told you that sea is not a natural resource & eating sea food won't put pressure on natural resources which sea hold in itself.

Don't you think it is our greed to have more food to feed mankind. In this pursuit we have forgotten that the other animals also exist which need to have food to propagate themselves. Thats why many species are getting extinct day by day.

Thanks & regards,