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| | | | | Re: 5 Kakars Questions Gurfateh
Das discuuused this issue in Gurudwara Sahib on last Sunday.Not to be placed with us like ritual and sometime to respect law and securty of others we can temporaryly remove Kirpan.
Kes or uncut hairs are the main thing and other four without Kes are useless/unpardanable(Tenth Master). *
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Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh Gurfateh
Das discuuused this issue in Gurudwara Sahib on last Sunday.Not to be placed with us like ritual and sometime to respect law and securty of others we can temporaryly remove Kirpan.
Kes or uncut hairs are the main thing and other four without Kes are useless/unpardanable(Tenth Master). | Well thanks for reply's.. i'm sure this will help everyone on the path of enlightment. | 
21-Apr-2006, 18:09 PM
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| | | | | Re: 5 Kakars Questions Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji de Bachan- kbIr pRIiq iek isau kIey Awn duibDw jwie ] BwvY lWby kys kru BwvY Grir mufwie ]25] Dhan Dhan Bhagat Kabeer Ji says-when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. Does not matter, you may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. mÚ 3 ]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/8300-5-kakars-questions.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8300 lokw vy hau sUhvI sUhw vysu krI ] vysI shu n pweIAY kir kir vys rhI ] nwnk iqnI shu pwieAw ijnI gur kI isK suxI ] jo iqsu BwvY so QIAY ien ibiD kMq imlI ]2] Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Amar Das Ji says- outer appearance does not help in obtaining the Lord. It is obtained by only those who listen to the Guru's teaching. | 
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| | | | | Re: 5 Kakars Questions It is written in the 52 hukams of guru gobind singh ji to keep 5 kakkar kes, khanga, kirpan kachera, kara | 
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| | | | | Re: 5 Kakars Questions Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji de Bachan- kbIr pRIiq iek isau kIey Awn duibDw jwie ]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8300 BwvY lWby kys kru BwvY Grir mufwie ]25] Dhan Dhan Bhagat Kabeer Ji says-when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. Does not matter, you may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald.
This is beautiful quote
It has been written by Kabir ji keeping in Mind the tradition prevelant at the time where people were made to shave heads( signifying detachment from from wordly love/things) at the time of induction into a particular spirtual tradition as it marks the reference point in the life of person when he commited to follow that particular path .In the same line people were made to grow hair in other tradition to mark their commitment to the particular path
What I mean to say is that the time Kabir ji worte this bani , going bald or keeping long hair marked and signified the following of the particular tradition by the various people of that time.
Now we will try to understand that what Bhagat Kabir want to convey in this Vaak
The duality/love for worldly things depart only when you start loving the one ( Akal)
whether you keep long hair or make your head bald it does not matter. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8300
So Kabir ji says that which ever spirtual path you are following the way to get rid of worldly love is loving the one ,nothing else is going to help
For a sikh who is keeping long hair in line with teaching of his Guru ,the way to get rid of duality is loving the one akal not jsut keeping long hair
This is what i undersood according to understanding given to me by Akal
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| | | | | Re: 5 Kakars Questions Respected Sadhsangat Ji,
So many people are thinking that by just wearing the five Kakkaars, they have recieved a lisence to Salvation. With due respect, this is Guru Ji's Seal, YES. But you have to do a LOT MORE. Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji De Bachan Ray man eh bidh jog kamaa-o Oh my mind, practice Yoga in this way: Singee saach akapat kanthalaa Let Truth be your horn, sincerity your necklace, Dhi-aan Bibhoot charaa-o and meditation the ashes you apply on your body. Taatee geho aatam bas kar kee Catch your burning soul (self) and stop the flames. Bhicchhaa naam adhaarang Let the soul (self) be the alms bowl in which you collect the sweet Naam and this will be the only support you will ever need. Baajay param taar tat har ko The Universe plays its divine music. The sound of reality is shrill, but this is where God is. Upajai raag rasaarang When you listen to the reality from this place of awareness the sweet essence of Raag arises. Ughatai taan tarang rang Waves of melodies, emotions, and passions arise and flow through you. Gi-aan geet bandhaanang Bind yourself with the song of God. Chak chak rehay dayv daanav mun The Universe spins like a potter’s wheel and from it fly demons and angels. Chhak chhak bayom bivaanang The sage listens to this and instead of getting caught in either one, the sage drinks the nectar of the heavens and is carried to the heavens in a divine chariot.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8300Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8300 Aatam upadays bhays sanjam ko Instruct and clothe yourself with self control. Meditate unto infinity Jaap so ajapaa jaapai until you are meditating without meditating. Sadaa rehai kanchan see kaayaa In this way, your body shall remain forever golden, Kaal na kabahoo bayaapai and death shall never approach you. | 
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