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Dear all,
Read Today's Daily Ajit..the Baba of dera Wadbhag Singh himslef declares that NAAM is the One and ONLY Sacha Teerath. www.ajitjalandhar.com
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"You have NO evidence apart from your Mum and uncle...what aload of "Hard evidence" eh ??"

No i have spoken from my personal experience at babaji dera and family experience yours is just a bunch of hateful opinions so who you tryin to kid and have a look on tapoban i think the sawy of opinion is in my favour.

"By the way i am happily married with nice educated Khalsa Amrtidharee children and wife and family and no worries"

I feel sorry for your wife and kids!

ISDhillon
Are you Kidding ?? Out of the Total 22 posts ( 3 are YOUR OWN - self praise !!) the other 19 SAY NAY loud and clear...Wadbhag is NOT SIKHI !! one Khalsa talks about baba Wadbhag singh being a saint ) that man got NOTHING to do with THE PRESENT DERA ( except his name beign misused).

Please Quote the Persons who SUPPORT YOU in going to the DERA and elt every reader make up his own mind.

The sad truth is every single reader who wrote to tapoban and OTHER FORUMS..are Shaking their heads as to what is wrong with YOU. IF "opinions" were in your favour as you claim...no reason to BAN YOU ??

come out of your fairly tale spirit world..and stop pitying my wife and kids..pity yourself.

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Re: Baba Vadhbhag Singh Ji

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Manbir Singh Ji

Dont tell me to growup I am am fully confident that this place does work thankyou very much:

"Many have been treated at Dhanaula with Electric Shocks.
Growup Sir, human mind has developed far ahead to get involved in such silly stuff."

My uncle was subjected to this electroshock treatment and he turned into a zombie andeventually committed suicide, medical treatment does not work I am a qualified counsellor I know I have also done a masters in pharmacy and I still believe in dera I would seriously advise that you get out of the this notion that medicine can serve all purposes, today more and more people are embracing spiritual healing because it works and western medicines only give relief of symptoms ie you become a zombie, but this dera changes the whole person and you again become alive and that too with gurus kirpa.

thanks but no thanks

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Dear IS Dhillon Ji

So, you are a qualified counselor and with masters digree !!

Then it’s a serious matter

I must tell you that I am a qualified Medical personal and working as a Medical specialist for many years. I have been treating such ‘Shakken Heads’ and fully aware of what this all stuff is. These are just diseased human beings. They need medical treatment.

I happen to frequently give Emergency treatments to my patients.

At this very moment The Emergency measure that I feel needs to be taken is : --

LET ALL THE SADH SANGAT OF THIS FORUM SIT TOGETHER AND DO ARDAS FOR THE PROTECTION OF THOSE WHO HAPPEN TO NEED YOUR COUNSEL.


Now for benefit of IS Dhillon Ji ONLY
  • As per my clinical judgment you have been inflicted with this disease which comes in various forms. To some extent this disease is Infectious (NOT in Medical sense). Those who happen to visit Deras frequently are very much prone to get this disease. Seeing and participating with these Shakken Heads does have delirious influence on people around. So Mr. Dhillon be careful.
  • This disease also has GENETIC aspect. It does run in family (MEDICALLY PROVED). I am really worried for you because you have it in your family !!
  • This disease has world wide prevalence and we do find mention of it in early historical literature. Its prevalence is since historical and pre historical times. BUT fortunately the incidence of this disease has reduced with progress in human thinking and with advancement of human thought process. Medical treatment of MINOR form of this disease prevents its progress to MAJOR form. Its seen that the incidence of this disease is very much less in EDUCATED population.
TREATMENT: Patients with Minor forms of this disease (Mr. Dhillon yours is still a Monor Form) tend to fare better. I would suggest following measures for you:-
  • STOP visiting such Deras , Tantriks Ojhas and the likes.
  • Try to wash your brain of all the stuff you saw in this Dera and all the rituals performed there.
  • Recite Jap ji Sahib daily Morning and Kirtan Sohila in the Evening
  • Concentrate on Waheguru throughout the day. Waheguru Simran does help in this process.
  • Take out all Negative thoughts from your brain.
COMPLICATIONS: if this disease are also known. Incidence of Suicide is very high in those with Major Form of this disease. Those with Family history of this disease should be very careful, they tend to get relapses of acute attacks of this disease, especially if they keep visiting Deras and Tantriks. Another major complication of this disease is that IT SPREADS WITH THOUGHT PROCESS. Diseased people tend to spread it to others. SO AVOID THIS TYPE OF SANGAT. Follow Sadh Sangat as mentioned in Gurbani.

CONCLUSION: Dear Mr. IS Dhillon, we cannot swim in TWO boats. This life is too short why waste takoing matha here and there. How can we follow so many Gurus ?
How can we decide who is right and who is wrong !! Let our Guru decide. And Guru has decided and ordered us to follow Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Lets do our bit and leave rest on HIM.

The choice is yours.


I heard someone saying
(Meaning of Vad Bhag
Vad = Cut Bhag = Destiny)
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Old 14-Feb-2006, 15:54 PM
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" I have been treating such ‘Shakken Heads’ and fully aware of what this all stuff is. "
where is your proof?

"These are just diseased human beings. They need medical treatment. "

yes millions have been treated at dera sahib.


"my clinical judgment you have been inflicted with this disease which comes in various forms"

you sound like a giani he to read things wwrong i have never said i was inflicted with anything i do hope you are more focussed with your patients

"This disease has world wide prevalence and we do find mention of it in early historical literature."

where?

"STOP visiting such Deras , Tantriks Ojhas and the likes."

i agree i will only visit sachkhan places like baba vadhbhag singh Ji
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8184

"Dear Mr. IS Dhillon, we cannot swim in TWO boats. "

this is true only follow gursikhs like Baba Vadhbhag Singh Ji. So really we have more in common than you think come lets shake our heads together

As for the giani have a look at the bottom where the milk went sour with your propaganda on tapoban you did get proven wrong didnt you time to eat some humble pie
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8184

Anymore opinions people or does anyone actually have an education? am i speaking to inbred pindoos

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Devine Sanative Ji

I dont understand your message are you saying that this sort of thing happens only in societies where people have it bad, cos my mum lives in england and she has everything she ever wanted, I suggest you take a long hard look at what yoy are saying because your argument is incredibly flimsy, If you had lived through what i saw then you would slap yourself across the face for thinking such a thing, no offence though

Giani strikes again aahhhhh i am soooo scared get a life you sad old man i have read what youve wrote about me on other websites you are malicious bitter and most probably like devine sanitive suggests sexually frustrated.

ISDhillon
I just plucked the string , and the whole world started Shaking with tremors of Ritcher scale 10000.......

I would suggest you before you counsell someone in future , first let be yourself counselled and be clear of Gyan , Dhyan , Byan and Syan...
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Dear IS Dhillon Ji

So, you are a qualified counselor and with masters digree !!

Then it’s a serious matter

I must tell you that I am a qualified Medical personal and working as a Medical specialist for many years. I have been treating such ‘Shakken Heads’ and fully aware of what this all stuff is. These are just diseased human beings. They need medical treatment.

I happen to frequently give Emergency treatments to my patients.

At this very moment The Emergency measure that I feel needs to be taken is : --

LET ALL THE SADH SANGAT OF THIS FORUM SIT TOGETHER AND DO ARDAS FOR THE PROTECTION OF THOSE WHO HAPPEN TO NEED YOUR COUNSEL.


Now for benefit of IS Dhillon Ji ONLY
  • As per my clinical judgment you have been inflicted with this disease which comes in various forms. To some extent this disease is Infectious (NOT in Medical sense). Those who happen to visit Deras frequently are very much prone to get this disease. Seeing and participating with these Shakken Heads does have delirious influence on people around. So Mr. Dhillon be careful.
  • This disease also has GENETIC aspect. It does run in family (MEDICALLY PROVED). I am really worried for you because you have it in your family !!
  • This disease has world wide prevalence and we do find mention of it in early historical literature. Its prevalence is since historical and pre historical times. BUT fortunately the incidence of this disease has reduced with progress in human thinking and with advancement of human thought process. Medical treatment of MINOR form of this disease prevents its progress to MAJOR form. Its seen that the incidence of this disease is very much less in EDUCATED population.
TREATMENT: Patients with Minor forms of this disease (Mr. Dhillon yours is still a Monor Form) tend to fare better. I would suggest following measures for you:-
  • STOP visiting such Deras , Tantriks Ojhas and the likes.
  • Try to wash your brain of all the stuff you saw in this Dera and all the rituals performed there.
  • Recite Jap ji Sahib daily Morning and Kirtan Sohila in the Evening
  • Concentrate on Waheguru throughout the day. Waheguru Simran does help in this process.
  • Take out all Negative thoughts from your brain.
COMPLICATIONS: if this disease are also known. Incidence of Suicide is very high in those with Major Form of this disease. Those with Family history of this disease should be very careful, they tend to get relapses of acute attacks of this disease, especially if they keep visiting Deras and Tantriks. Another major complication of this disease is that IT SPREADS WITH THOUGHT PROCESS. Diseased people tend to spread it to others. SO AVOID THIS TYPE OF SANGAT. Follow Sadh Sangat as mentioned in Gurbani.

CONCLUSION: Dear Mr. IS Dhillon, we cannot swim in TWO boats. This life is too short why waste takoing matha here and there. How can we follow so many Gurus ?
How can we decide who is right and who is wrong !! Let our Guru decide. And Guru has decided and ordered us to follow Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Lets do our bit and leave rest on HIM.

The choice is yours.


I heard someone saying
(Meaning of Vad Bhag
Vad = Cut Bhag = Destiny)

You are right , It spreads with thought process , as the subconscious minds of two people communicate invisibly with progapagtion of thoughts , so such thought especially negative ones spread like Virus .
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Dear devinsnative jio,

Thus we come to the Inevitable conlcusion of GURBANI..
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8184

MOORAKHAAN NAAL NA LUJHEAYEAH..Asa Di vaar.... Meaning DONT MESS with FOOLS.

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"I just plucked the string , and the whole world started Shaking with tremors of Ritcher scale 10000......."
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8184

yeah keep dreamin when you go there and see for yourself then come back and debate wiv me i will be more than happy until then raab da naa lai!

"I would suggest you before you counsell someone in future , first let be yourself counselled and be clear of Gyan , Dhyan , Byan and Syan"

No thanks I am 100% with all my religious convictions if you wanna discuss something then you need to make a presentable case but you havnt so i dont need to take any advice from you or the giani you both have same opinion "tera ser vich bem hai" - and frankly i dont give a flyin *** wot you think, counsel that!!!
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Dear Bro IS Dhillon Ji,

Das gave you a suggestion that why do not you learn the subjects or methids being used by Dera Baba Wadbhag Singh Ji.

There after you can use the same supernaatural powers to prove you point to Gyani Sahib,Manbir Singh Ji and our noughty Devine Senative JI.

Show them your miracles but these Sikhs may even then do not agree to you.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8184

Yet gain some power and show us some miralce.Then next thing

Did sprits or Hava of Baba Vadbhag Singh Ji or Veer Nahar Singh Ji(Veer is a type of para normal creature) are invokes then das can say from Bani of Tenth Master that invoking by offering ie worshipping Dead is Kurh Kriya(filthy act) but that is relative term as Akal does all.

By will of Akal pig eats flith and gives us pork.So if this thing helps hindus or turbaned Hindus it is OK.

Das is interested that have you lerant something supernatural from there or not?

If not then learn aboout it and tell us something and let us gain some more things.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8184

You made some staments,Now expermanets upon you yorselves have to be done to prove them so that let them be theory.

Das is also interested that before Baba Vadhbhag Singh Ji who use to control ghosts?

Das anyway respects Baba Ji and all other posters on this site.Akal is same in all.But das can relaise that relife you might have felt after vsisitng Dera and your replies are proof of the same.

But did you go to Rara Sahib or Mehta Chowk with your mothers problem and if you went then what did Sants say about it?
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