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| | | | | | | Sikh Afterlife Each individual has many reincarnations, but being born a human means the soul is nearing the end of rebirth. God judges each soul at death and may either reincarnate the soul or, if pure enough, allow it to rest with him. But my question...is it or is it not true that, there are two beings living on your shoulders, that are recording everything you do, until death. And after death, if you did not recite prayer and do good, a being so ugly and so repulsive, beats you up with a stick until you finaly reach waheguru. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/8181-sikh-afterlife.html
Now is this said because it is fact. Or is it said to scare a human, into not doing bad things and keeping them on the right track?
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04-Feb-2006, 19:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Prabh Each individual has many reincarnations, but being born a human means the soul is nearing the end of rebirth. God judges each soul at death and may either reincarnate the soul or, if pure enough, allow it to rest with him. But my question...is it or is it not true that, there are two beings living on your shoulders, that are recording everything you do, until death. And after death, if you did not recite prayer and do good, a being so ugly and so repulsive, beats you up with a stick until you finaly reach waheguru.
Now is this said because it is fact. Or is it said to scare a human, into not doing bad things and keeping them on the right track?  | It must be true in some form or the other.It can't just be to scare a person--religion is more serious than that | 
04-Feb-2006, 22:44 PM
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| | | | | Re: Sikh Afterlife This Shabad is by Guru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Saarang on Pannaa 1247 sloku mÚ 3 ] ijnI nwmu ivswirAw bhu krm kmwvih hoir ] nwnk jm puir bDy mwrIAih ijau sMn@I aupir cor ]1] salok ma 3 || jinee naam visaariaa bahu karam kamaavehi hor || naanak jam pur badhhae maareeahi jio sa(n)nhee oupar chor ||1|| Shalok, Third Mehl: Those who forget the Naam and do other things, O Nanak, will be bound and gagged and beaten in the City of Death, like the thief caught red-handed. ||1|| http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?SourceID=G&PageNo=&ShabadID=4492&Format=2 http://www.sikhitothemax.com
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GurbaniDetails gwvih icqu gupqu iliK jwxih iliK iliK Drmu vIcwry ] g aaveh i ch ith g upath l ikh j aaneh i l ikh l ikh dhharam v eech aar ae || Chitr and Gupt, the angels of the conscious and the subconscious who record actions, and the Righteous Judge of Dharma who judges this record sing. Guru Nanak Dev Ji Jap 6 gwvin quDno icqu gupqu iliK jwxin iliK iliK Drmu bIcwry ] g aavan th udhhan o ch ith g upath l ikh j aanan l ikh l ikh dhharam b eech aar ae || Chitr and Gupt, the angels of the conscious and the subconscious who keep the record of actions, and the Righteous Judge of Dharma who reads this record, sing of You. Guru Nanak Dev Ji So Dar 8 icqR gupq kw kwgdu PwirAw jmdUqw kCU n clI ] ch ithr g upath k aa k aagadh f aar iaa jamadh ooth aa kashh oo n chal ee || The accounts of Chitr and Gupt, the recording scribes of the conscious and the subconscious are torn up, and the Messenger of Death cannot do anything. Guru Arjan Dev Ji Siree Raag 79 icqR gupqu jb lyKw mwgih qb kauxu pVdw qyrw FwkY ]3] ch ithr g upath jab l aekh aa m aageh i thab ko un parradh aa th aer aa dt aak ai ||3|| When Chitr and Gupt, the celestial accountants of the conscious and subconscious, call for your account, who will screen you then? ||3|| Guru Arjan Dev Ji Raag Sorath 616 lyKw icqR gupiq jo iliKAw sB CUtI jm kI bwkI ]2] l aekh aa ch ithr g upath j o l ikh iaa sabh shh oott ee jam k ee b aak ee ||2|| The account of the recording angels, Chitr and Gupt, and the account with the Messenger of Death is totally erased. ||2|| Guru Raam Daas Ji Raag Dhanaasree 668 icq gupq krmih jwn ] ch ith g upath karameh i j aan || The recording scribes of the conscious and the unconscious, Chitr and Gupt, know all actions and karma. Guru Arjan Dev Ji Raag Bilaaval 838 pwpu puMnu jW cY fWgIAw duAwrY icqR gupqu lyKIAw ] p aap p u(n)n j aa(n) ch ai dd aa(n)g eeaa dh uaar ai ch ithr g upath l aekh eeaa || Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8181 Sin and virtue are the standard-bearers at His Door; Chitr and Gupt are the recording angels of the conscious and subconscious. Bhagat Naam Dev Ji Raag Malaar Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8181 1292 dyvdwno rwks dYNq sB icqR gupq sB crnI lwXw] dh aevadh aan o r aakas dh ai(n)ath sabh ch ithr g upath sabh charan ee l aay aa|| All the gods, demons, raksasa, daitys, Chitragupt et al. bowed at his feet. Bhai Gurdaas Ji Vaars Bhai Gurdaas 1 | 
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