Sikhs Failed to Follow and spread Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Message

Rakhra ji

Thank you for clarifying your concerns. I have been locked out of the forum for a few hours because of a maintenance problem. And can only navigate partially at this time. Thus the delay in my reply.

Some of the answers to your questions can be found using gurbani search engines. The one that I use most often -- because it has most of the navigation tools that you have listed above -- is the one found at searchgurbani.org

The Sri Guru Granth Sahib can be searched by raag, by author (guru, bhagat, and sant), by page number, or by word and prhase (in English, Hindi, Transliteration, and Gurmukhi). The word and phrase search can be done using a variety of schemes including first letters of a word, by all the words, etc.) There is also an amrit kirtan section which can be searched. There are articles to provide background. And the site discusses the organization of the granth in one of its sections.

The location on the web is http://www.searchgurbani.org

Another favorite is is SikhiToTheMax which has a number of the same features. However the site is not as easy to figure out and the Gurmukhi fonts used are not standard fonts read by most web site servers.

Both searchgurbani.org and SikhiToTheMax have desktop versions. You can download the granth and search off-line.

 
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IMHO Sikhs have failed on following counts :
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1. They have yet to grasp the real Definition of God as described in MOOLMANTAR .fficeffice" />
It mean there is one God. The name (naam) is everlasting. One doer. He is not afraid. He have no enemy ( He also have no friend). He have no image. He is never born. He can be understood by the grace of guru. No where in the mool mantar it says the granth is guru.
. Guru’s parsad not elm. Parsad is given by guru on his own. When we ask any one guru or any one for any thing it is called begging. It is not parsad.
Maybe you should explain what u understand the meaning of mool mantar

2. They have failed to follow the real terminology of SHABAD ( WORD ) as Guru

Shabad,mater,bani dhun naam. There are many names of same thing. How the naam can become guru? The naam has to be given by true guru. It is the vibration of this naam that become guru. There is no need for the guru to be alive. Ei:-
As the girl ger pregnant by husband so does the soul by guru’s given naam. It does not make any difference if the husband is alive or not for the child in the womb.
The naam have to be sat nam ever lasting Naam. That has to be given by true guru. It can not be asked. How can we know the true guru it is big question. Here it is how to know. If guru give naam to some one ans aske him/her to recite it every day and keep coming to him or mander,gurdwara then he is not a true guru. As I stated the need of husband is not needed for the child in the womb. Girl and boy don’t have to have sex to the child to grow in the womb. Same here if the naam is true it is not needed to be repeated. Or have to do karam kand to be saved. Those guru who ask him/her to keep coming and recite the naam is like homosexual act. It feel good but can not bare child.
Almost very negligible no of persons I have come across till today are clear about how Shabad ( Word / Gurbani ) is our Guru & how it can make us achieve the state of Living Emancipation ( Jiwan Mukt ) .

What is jiwan mukat? Just like pregnant girl have to be care full what she eat and how she look after her body by not working hard jumping up and down while she is carriing the child in the womb. Same the person who have received naam have to live the live of good person.

As a result the Sants , Babas etc step in to fill the gap whose only purpose is to fleece the gullible believers & make them worship himself only & not the LORD GOD .

Can the worship of any person help to get jiwan mukat, no it does not. Can the worship of God needed to have jiwan mukat, no it does not. God do not need our worship. We only do it to satisfy our own ego that we worship God. As stated in mool mantar God do not have body that have heart. Worship affect the heart by emotion of worship.
3. The MODERN Sikhs have gone one step furthur again questioning the very baisis of Sikhism, its requirement in 21st century, they simply do not want to follow the tenants of Sikhism but keep criticizing all the beliefs of Sikhism while at the same time calling themselves as Sikhs.

All religions are created by men for their own power and ego. Those who are preaching us to be in the religion are doing so for their own benefit not ours. We have been brainwashed for thousands of years to worship and be true believer of religion. Other wise we will burn in hell. They will do any thing to keep us in the religion. Even kill people or kill us to keep the religion alive.

4.The basic three pillars of Sikhism are
a. Kirat Karo ( Do honest labour )
b. Naam Japo ( Remember God )
c. Wand Chakko ( share your earnings )

There is nothing wrong with these three pillars. It is good living. It is the basis of almost all religion. I say almost, there is a religion that doesn’t have that basis when it was started. The religion were needed when there was no law and order. The kings ruled and they did what they pleased. Public had no rights. Now most of the countries are democratic. They have the constitution that protect the public. There is no need for a religion. We have the vote that we can use to replace the leader that we don’t like. In religion the heads are appointed by just hand full people or by powerfull leader like Badal in ffice:smarttags" />Punjab appoint jethedar at akal takhat. They issue paid hukamnawas as they please. Very good example is the sitting one fllor for the langar. If all sit on chairs then all are equal. The reason hardliner give is at the time of guru sangat sat on floor so we should also sit on floor. There were no chairs then. Now we have chairs. Now people are disable too they have problem to sit on floor due to the problem with knees.

But Sikhs are all into external practices which are dogmatic heavily influenced by their sense of Ego & show off like Nagar Kirtans, Roadside lanagrs / Chabeels , Rumallas on Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji , hiring expensive Raagis , Series of Akhand paaths , Building & Goldplating More Gurudwaras Hemkunt Yatras etc .

We will give money to build new gurdwaras but will not give the money for library or education for the poor child. Most of us believe that if we give money to Gurdwaras the gurus will bless us.
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5 . There is absolutely no effort on part of Sikhs to impart teachings of Sikhi , Gurmat/ Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to their children thinking it to be unnecessary . Mostly even they themselves are not attuned to the teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji , Rehat Maryada etc .
6 . There has been absolutely no effort on part of Sikh institutions to translate Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji into other languages of India starting with Hindi , English , Spanish , mandarin etc . There is no effort to make a consensus on which translations are treated as approved & start their use in daily Katha , Hukamnaamas . Nobody is ready to spend even single penny on translations whichever are done are with ill-intent under the influence of some sect , group which is actually a mistranslation done intentionally to create more confusion .

I am in India now visited many gurdwaras and other places. I see lot of curuption in all the places. No one is talking about the abuse. All I hear that this is India and it is the way here. The news paper Ajit is full of paid news. Most of the news are copied from other English news papers. News paper should be to bring the corruption out and guide the public. All the way from the panchyat to the CM. There are nagar kirtan and dharna every where. The trafit is blocked for no reason. No one willing to work for the living. They are looking for easy way to make money. The youths are turning to drugs n whisky. Most of the whisky shops are owned by the Akali dal party members. I have seen from the 50’s and now at the Anadpur on holi days The nahans drink bhang all over in that holly city. That is the example they are setting for the public.
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In homes most of the men, boys are drinking whisky every night. I have seen boys 12 year old drink whisky with their father uncle.

There is no spirituality left in religion. I see lot of hatred in Punjab against the Hindus. Any thing comes from Hindu is always wrong. Many are talking about creating Khalstan. When I ask them to explain the working of the Khalistan they have no isea as to how it will work. All they are saying we will tell when we will get it. Simranjit Mann have the map of Khalistan drawn out with is most of haryana and Himachal should be included. Who will form the government and how. No one knows about it. Weather it be appointed by the Akal thakhat or by public vote. What will happen to Sikhs like me who are clean shaved. And the other Sikhs in other part of India or in other countries.

At the time of Nanak we all were Hindus. Our fore fathers were Hindus. If we hate our fore fathers we sure to be hated by our children.
Whan Nanak preached that place was called dera. He preached some thing that was missing in the religion of that time. Just look around is that thing is still in Sikhism or gone. Why people are going to sants or baba’s dera. Because they don’t see any value in the religion. Sikhism is full of karm kand which Nanak preached against.
Karm dharm na but puja, parbrahm bi jan duja. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji p 199

I don’t see any karm kand Nanak Aproved. So why are we getting more n more into them? People argue that to keep the religion we must have some karam kand. If Nanak survived then I am sure we can too. Nanak and other gurus preached about naam simran. What was the naam they were talking about? Now we belive the whole Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is naam. That can not be. At the time of Nanak the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was not in existence. When Nanak argue with the sidhs he told them this is guru is shabad ( naam) But no where in his bani he mention what naam is. He claim in many places in his bani that naam is given by true guru. As now we see fake guru babas. They are not worthy of giving the naam. People are looking for the naam what the Nanak talked about and the fake babas taking advantage of ignorant people. At Harmandir in Amritsar I have seen the statue of Nanak being sold. People are buying them. In the plave of Alkal Takhet this is going on. We all are guilty of it. People buy pictures of gurus and other shaheeds to put them in their homes with pride. Don’t they know that all pictures of gurus are fake. Why are we letting people to sell them in the Harmander? Even in the web site there are pictures of gurus being posted. What are we doing?
There is no picture or statue of Mohammad any where in the world. That religion is flourishing in all part of the world.

It is very hard to explain what is naam and how it work here in writing. It has to be explained in person. People who want naam are looking for it and they will be looking till the end of the world.

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