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| | | | Dear Khalsa Jee (Ideal Singh),
As I have stated in one of my earlier posting in the thread 'What is God': God is 'Cosmic Intelligence'. Intelligence cannot be seen through eyes or felt through touch.
I am of the opinion that God is not choosy, for 'The Almight' we all are equal. Unless we develope the necessary interface to experience 'The Amight', we are going to miss it. It is development of this interface that needs efforts. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/56-naam-jap-is-your-true-religion.html Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=56
With Respect and Love for all.
Amarpal *
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26-Oct-2004, 09:59 AM
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| | | | | | Re: Naam Jap is Your True Religion... Freinds! Nam "Ik Onkar Sat Nam Siri Wahe Guru" appears in several old books which are available at Gobind Sadan in their library. There may be other sources, but may I mention these two: 1. 100 Sakhis by Bhai Ram Kaur, written in 1734, published by Bhai Chattar Singh and Jeevan Singh, Amritsar, and also Buta Singh, Partap Singh. Bhai Ram Kaur records at the end of Sakhi number 50, a converation between himself and Guru Gobind Singh, that Guru Gobind Singh said, "Ik onkar sat nam siri wahe guru" jap da rao Jap Sahib da path karta raoJab lag ghat mein pran. 2. Life and Teachings of Bhai Vir Singh, Maharaj Singh, Jaswant Singh,etc., published about 150 years ago. Bhai Vir Singh of Naurangabad was adisciple of Bhaj Singh, who was a disciple of Sahib Singh Vedi of Una,number 9 in the direct line of Guru Nanak, and a famous saint during the reign of Maharajah Ranjit Singh. On page 44 of this volume, it is written: "This is the teaching given by Sahib Singh Vedi to Sant VirSingh of Naurangabad:Bhai Vir Singh put the question, "When I read Guru Granth Sahib or Gurbani, I commit many mistakes. "Sahib Singh said, "Before starting reading of Gurbani, utter 5 times IkOnkar Sat Nam Siri Wahe Guru. After having finished the reading againutter the words Ik Onkar Sat Nam Siri Wahe Guru. Then all your mistakeswill be forgiven." He also instructed him, "Chant this Nam when you riseearly in the morning." For further help, kindly contact: Themissociijuris@yahoo.com or visit http://www.geocities.com/gulshanbajw...s-Webpage.html [N.B.: There is an underscore ( _ ) after "Themis".] Have a nice day! Humanist | 
26-Oct-2004, 17:33 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: I don't think that Naam Jaap is simple recitation of a word .. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Youth_Voice Doesn't this seems to be quite strange .....??
How can the simple recitation of a word be beneficial to anyone ...?
I am quite amazed that how can we interpret gurbani in this manner , we simply think of Naam Simran , Naam Japna or other similar words in Gurbani to be as the repetitive recitation of a word ....? | Thought I'd reiterate what's pretty much been already said here.
Although it's easy to say that simlpe chanting is not benificial, when a thought pervades your mind for a reasonable amount of time, and is then repeated regularly you tend to become or take on aspects of that thought.
Try sitting down and Jap " Satnaam Waheguru" for a couple of hours and when you finish, tell me if it didn't have any effect on you.
Over time the simple superficial thought becomes deeper, more meaningful until it is finally engraved on your soul, and becomes part of you, where your thoughts forever rest.
Of course, doing it just for the sake of doing it is not enough, you have to want to do it and this is only a part of the whole picture of also understanding gurbani and living it to the best of our ability.
Gursharan Singh | 
10-Nov-2004, 14:39 PM
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| | | | | | Re: Naam Jap is Your True Religion... Naam is: "Ek Aumkar Satnam Srivaheguru" (sometimes misspelt as 'Ik Onkar Sat Nam Siri Wahe Guru'). Its source is recited in the Janm-Skhis, to cite just two:- 1. 100 Sakhis by Bhai Ram Kaur, written in 1734, published by BhaiChattar Singh and Jeevan Singh, Amritsar, and also Buta Singh, PartapSingh. Bhai Ram Kaur records at the end of Sakhi Number 50, aconveration between himself and Guru Gobind Singh, that Guru GobindSingh said, "Ik onkar sat nam siri wahe guru" jap karda rao Jap Sahib da path karta raoJab lag ghat mein pran.2. Life and Teachings of Bhai Vir Singh, Maharaj Singh, Jaswant Singh,etc., published about 150 years ago. Bhai Vir Singh of Naurangabad was adisciple of Bhaj Singh, who was a disciple of Sahib Singh Vedi of Una,number 9 in the direct line of Guru Nanak, and a famous saint during thereign of Maharajah Ranjit Singh. On page 44 of this volume, it iswritten: "This is the teaching given by Sahib Singh Vedi to Sant VirSingh of Naurangabad:Bhai Vir Singh put the question, "When I read Guru Granth Sahib orGurbani, I commit many mistakes."Sahib Singh said, "Before starting reading of Gurbani, utter 5 times IkOnkar Sat Nam Siri Wahe Guru. After having finished the reading againutter the words Ik Onkar Sat Nam Siri Wahe Guru. Then all your mistakeswill be forgiven." He also instructed him, "Chant this Nam when you riseearly in the morning."Happy Deepawali!Prof. Gulshan Bajwa | 
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